Return-Path: Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5103073 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 05:58:38 +0200 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130612040832.NLVA24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 00:08:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.3] ([66.215.90.127]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id nG8X1l00H2krwcJ05G8X6u; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 00:08:32 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dIr+A5lb c=1 sm=1 a=DLIyoRXhys9G3DL5n+qGgw==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=7lUP62YMSbAA:10 a=1ER6aFSvUR3Ay_AA-icA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=RFaxJ1YKWH0A:10 a=p3b_eOXHgIUA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=x7e7LKIEAAAA:8 a=9_N4UVDVldIdJwq5-5IA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=8rJGRtLvyuwA:10 a=o3G7uH-rcBTSoHvl:21 a=DLIyoRXhys9G3DL5n+qGgw==:117 From: Jonathan Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--286596095 Subject: Re: [AE] New MacPro Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:08:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <26E47F25-70E4-42F3-A080-89A5D6D70515@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-8--286596095 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 It is always with dismay that I read the list when Apple comes out with = something new. Trashing Apple has become a cottage industry among the = cognoscenti. I understand the impulse. I have the same reaction to = Microsoft which is =96 usually =96 to think the worst. Sometimes it's = justified (see the new XBox announcement for a classic "I'm now going to = to shoot myself in the foot" teaching moment) and sometimes it's not. = Same goes for Apple. On the list, however, the most acute rancor seems = to be reserved for Apple. Adobe is, perhaps, a very distant second. And = while I occasionally enjoy indulging in schadenfreude, I know it's not = my best moment. The chatter doesn't help me make an informed decision. I also find it = disrespectful toward the people on the list who tend to favor Apple, = warts and all (and there are plenty these days). I think it shuts people = down, which I believe is contrary to the idea of the list. The list is = primarily about exchanging knowledge and information, of course, but it = also gives us the opportunity and space to voice our opinions and ideas. = And our ignorance. It's always good to be corrected when one is = ill-informed. The question is how it's done. As to speculation about the price of the machine, I suspect that for me = it will cost around $5,000 =96 about the price I've paid for all my = desktop computers, going back to the 286 IBM PC that I had outfitted = with a 10 MB hard drive and a 1.2 MB floppy. When I buy the new MacPro, = it may not be the fastest or most tricked out machine on the block, but = it will be adequate for my purposes as we head, like it or not, into a = 4k world. Jonathan JONATHAN PENZNER VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | | CELL 818 321-2890 | sureal@charter.net= --Apple-Mail-8--286596095 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 It is always with dismay that I = read the list when Apple comes out with something new. Trashing Apple = has become a cottage industry among the cognoscenti. I understand the = impulse. I have the same reaction to Microsoft which is =96 usually =96 = to think the worst. Sometimes it's justified (see the new XBox = announcement for a classic "I'm now going to to shoot myself in the = foot" teaching moment) and sometimes it's not. Same goes for = Apple. On the list, however, the most acute rancor seems to be = reserved for Apple. Adobe is, perhaps, a very distant second. And = while I occasionally enjoy indulging in schadenfreude, I know it's not = my best moment.

The chatter doesn't help me make an = informed decision. I also find it disrespectful toward the people on the = list who tend to favor Apple, warts and all (and there are plenty these = days). I think it shuts people down, which I believe is contrary to the = idea of the list. The list is primarily about exchanging knowledge and = information, of course, but it also gives us the opportunity and space = to voice our opinions and ideas. And our ignorance. It's always good to = be corrected when one is ill-informed. The question is how it's = done.

As to speculation about the price of the = machine, I suspect that for me it will cost around $5,000 =96 about the = price I've paid for all my desktop computers, going back to the 286 IBM = PC that I had outfitted with a 10 MB hard drive and a 1.2 MB floppy. = When I buy the new MacPro, it may not be the fastest or most tricked out = machine on the block, but it will be adequate for my purposes as we = head, like it or not, into a 4k = world.

Jonathan



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