Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com ([209.85.223.181] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5113867 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:02:56 +0200 Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x12so16871013ief.12 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Jgei2hMsBM52qU3JFoMagsHf+Ho/2vUj4mypBKc2334=; b=SlkWm9T7IGPXqPK3QqbwQpQg0+mikD8MSCQ4ZJRfa+zShBCCNRl/t9Ug+U5LRY/zJ4 p62Uy6nnopMZtQM0Gh5AY9V/MwYF+OdvTY+MVZX8l39xQ76u0xL1pSjKysZyfT7Scv6K jScAOZ+EWro8QI7gSsFCRTGHrGM3EHlZ8jA5/Q0yFDrbiI2MI/nvygFV3Wbpp7Bmw7kE Bu+LjHOcPMJlje03abIxJ80DqnpT9o/vDUjyEJPgHUO01fzKshzlgA1W55VilMuE6gtj 2mirZz73GR5G4zE9ILBnqY7E3YWnjN1jbiPRkB3YA9D8AY9Gw0bahneUe9U4qlS/DsWI 4V7A== X-Received: by 10.42.191.82 with SMTP id dl18mr3595785icb.9.1371741185655; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.5.201 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:12:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Keying technique To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3043496e18482b04df9762ae --20cf3043496e18482b04df9762ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently worked on a ton of shots for a movie and while the roto brush was very handy, this new feature would have saved the day, had it been available at the time. Not to totally disagree but I think the shots described below have exceeded the capability of CS6, especially for that hair. I was about to shoot myself and there is still one shot I left very dissatisfied. :) On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Lachlan, have you turned on Refine matte in the rotobrush options and > played with the settings? Even in CS6, refine matte's motion blur > compensation and edge decontamination is very good with some smoothing an= d > feathering. It has saved many "impossible" shots for me. > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Lachlan Westfall > wrote: > >> I=92m certain someone has had a more challenging roto job than the one = on >> which I=92m working... But not by much. >> >> Four people waving their hands/arms... And often across their own >> faces/bodies etc... Need I say more... >> >> Thankfully Rotobrush has done a GREAT job on the simple-medium stuff. >> This has saved me hours, if not days. >> >> The last challenge that I have is the hair of a girl in the wind. I >> cannot hand-roto this, I have to find a way to make some kind of matte t= o >> catch the edges. >> >> The hair goes from brown to blonde and the background is predominantly >> gray/neutral. This is the only hope I have of finding some difference >> between the fore- and back-grounds. >> >> Can anyone suggest a technique and combo of plug-ins? I=92m sure many of >> you here have fought this battle before. >> >> Many thanks. >> >> -Lachlan Westfall >> Quiet Earth Design >> >> > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > --=20 *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347 www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com* *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* * * --20cf3043496e18482b04df9762ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I recently worked on a ton of shots for a movie and while the roto bru= sh was very handy, this new feature would have saved the day, had it been a= vailable at the time.=A0 Not to totally disagree but I think the shots desc= ribed below have exceeded the capability of CS6, especially for that hair.= =A0 I was about to shoot myself and there is still one shot I left very dis= satisfied.=A0 :)
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On Thu, Jun = 20, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wro= te:
Lachlan, have you turned on Refine matte in the rotobrush = options and played with the settings? Even in CS6, refine matte's motio= n blur compensation and edge decontamination is very good with some smoothi= ng and feathering. It has saved many "impossible" shots for me.= =A0


On Wed, Jun 1= 9, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Lachlan Westfall <lachlan@quietearth.net>= wrote:
I=92m certain someone has had a more challenging roto job than = the one on which I=92m working... But not by much.

Four people waving their hands/arms... And often across their own faces/bod= ies etc... Need I say more...

Thankfully Rotobrush has done a GREAT job on the simple-medium stuff. This = has saved me hours, if not days.

The last challenge that I have is the hair of a girl in the wind. I cannot = hand-roto this, I have to find a way to make some kind of matte to catch th= e edges.

The hair goes from brown to blonde and the background is predominantly gray= /neutral. This is the only hope I have of finding some difference between t= he fore- and back-grounds.

Can anyone suggest a technique and combo of plug-ins? I=92m sure many of yo= u here have fought this battle before.

Many thanks.

-Lachlan Westfall
Quiet Earth Design



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