Return-Path: Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.122] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5113928 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:30:13 +0200 Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Odoa/2vY c=1 sm=0 a=kxnugH6Wy5bl5vZ3xW/I5w==:17 a=DQZvOVXRM6cA:10 a=Zq2FpVYgtBoA:10 a=bjq9PpNSDe0A:10 a=LaNeyJ9lAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=E5o8cj_5glcA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Oq9qXyq5FUbsf1cetOsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=L67R7YQVgx4A:10 a=dnY0PnqfMMhIjiQYZ5AA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=d_d1B0DGNuzaFO5m:21 a=kxnugH6Wy5bl5vZ3xW/I5w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 24.24.234.97 Received: from [24.24.234.97] ([24.24.234.97:38865] helo=[10.0.1.2]) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 42/64-07405-66223C15; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:40:23 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:40:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [AE] Keying technique From: Lachlan Westfall To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [AE] Keying technique Thread-Index: Ac5tzHmHt/hAqtm/EeK3bgAfWzIHkA== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3454562423_34713305" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3454562423_34713305 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Teddy, To some extent, yes. It=B9s just the that this detail is so small and fine that rotobrush doesn=B9t seem to handle it. -L On 6/20/13 8:03 AM, "Teddy Gage" wrote: > Lachlan, have you turned on Refine matte in the rotobrush options and pla= yed > with the settings? Even in CS6, refine matte's motion blur compensation a= nd > edge decontamination is very good with some smoothing and feathering. It = has > saved many "impossible" shots for me.=A0 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Lachlan Westfall > wrote: >> I=B9m certain someone has had a more challenging roto job than the one on = which >> I=B9m working... But not by much. >>=20 >> Four people waving their hands/arms... And often across their own >> faces/bodies etc... Need I say more... >>=20 >> Thankfully Rotobrush has done a GREAT job on the simple-medium stuff. Th= is >> has saved me hours, if not days. >>=20 >> The last challenge that I have is the hair of a girl in the wind. I cann= ot >> hand-roto this, I have to find a way to make some kind of matte to catch= the >> edges. >>=20 >> The hair goes from brown to blonde and the background is predominantly >> gray/neutral. This is the only hope I have of finding some difference be= tween >> the fore- and back-grounds. >>=20 >> Can anyone suggest a technique and combo of plug-ins? I=B9m sure many of y= ou >> here have fought this battle before. >>=20 >> Many thanks. >>=20 >> -Lachlan Westfall >> Quiet Earth Design >>=20 >=20 >=20 --B_3454562423_34713305 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [AE] Keying technique Teddy,

To some extent, yes. It’s just the that this detail is so small and f= ine that rotobrush doesn’t seem to handle it.

-L

On 6/20/13 8:03 AM, "Teddy Gage" <teddygage@gmail.com> wrot= e:

Lachlan, have you turned on Refine matte= in the rotobrush options and played with the settings? Even in CS6, refine = matte's motion blur compensation and edge decontamination is very good with = some smoothing and feathering. It has saved many "impossible" shot= s for me.=A0


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Lachlan Westfall <lachlan@quietearth.n= et> wrote:
I’m certain someone has had a more= challenging roto job than the one on which I’m working... But not by = much.

Four people waving their hands/arms... And often across their own faces/bod= ies etc... Need I say more...

Thankfully Rotobrush has done a GREAT job on the simple-medium stuff. This = has saved me hours, if not days.

The last challenge that I have is the hair of a girl in the wind. I cannot = hand-roto this, I have to find a way to make some kind of matte to catch the= edges.

The hair goes from brown to blonde and the background is predominantly gray= /neutral. This is the only hope I have of finding some difference between th= e fore- and back-grounds.

Can anyone suggest a technique and combo of plug-ins? I’m sure many o= f you here have fought this battle before.

Many thanks.

-Lachlan Westfall
Quiet Earth Design




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