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From: Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:37:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [AE] Contractors and Source files
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Sounds like it would be very important to know the "verbiage of the
original contract." Why is this not available to you?

All of the work-for-hire I do with major companies explicitly state that
any source files I create are their property. That is when I sign a
contract. If it was a verbal agreement or a deal hashed out over emails,
unless stated at the beginning, the source files belong to the freelancer
as their intellectual property. How you proceed obviously depends on what
this guy signed. If you can't find that out, and it will make your life
easier, pay him. It's not worth the headache of threatening and
intimidation. Which never works anyway.
-TG


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Michael Kedor <mikedor@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Listers,
>
> I have taken over a show for a team that has a contractor that has handled
> most of the graphics up to this point.
>
> The idea is for me to complete the edit and graphics for the team. The
> original contractor has been paid in full, but does not want to release the
> source AE project files. This is kind of a big deal for me since if there
> are any tweaks, as surely there will be, I will have to recreate what this
> contractor did.
>
> Without knowing the verbiage of the original contract, where does the
> ownership begin and end? What rights do the producers have to that source
> content? What tactics would you employ to charm the contractor into handing
> me his project files?
>
> Thank you kindly for your response.
>
> -Mike
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like it would be very important to know the &quot;v=
erbiage of the original contract.&quot; Why is this not available to you?<d=
iv><br></div><div style>All of the work-for-hire I do with major companies =
explicitly state that any source files I create are their property. That is=
 when I sign a contract. If it was a verbal agreement or a deal hashed out =
over emails, unless stated at the beginning, the source files belong to the=
 freelancer as their intellectual property. How you proceed obviously depen=
ds on what this guy signed. If you can&#39;t find that out, and it will mak=
e your life easier, pay him. It&#39;s not worth the headache of threatening=
 and intimidation. Which never works anyway.</div>

<div style>-TG</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Michael Kedor <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mikedor@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mikedor@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello Listers,<br>
<br>
I have taken over a show for a team that has a contractor that has handled =
most of the graphics up to this point.<br>
<br>
The idea is for me to complete the edit and graphics for the team. The orig=
inal contractor has been paid in full, but does not want to release the sou=
rce AE project files. This is kind of a big deal for me since if there are =
any tweaks, as surely there will be, I will have to recreate what this cont=
ractor did.<br>


<br>
Without knowing the verbiage of the original contract, where does the owner=
ship begin and end? What rights do the producers have to that source conten=
t? What tactics would you employ to charm the contractor into handing me hi=
s project files?<br>


<br>
Thank you kindly for your response.<br>
<br>
-Mike<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Animator &amp; Editor</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a href=3D"http://www.teddygage.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">www.teddygage.com</a></span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0=
)">

<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Brooklyn</span><br>
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