Return-Path: Received: from mail-vb0-f45.google.com ([209.85.212.45] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5115187 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:24:18 +0200 Received: by mail-vb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p14so6244963vbm.32 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:34:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=M+R88tNuGJ062ztoEzNmzdgd4+eKUfORXZxsvLnVsoA=; b=dwGEy8DOAG96lXzS5gLfUpw53WDha8/YlQbNX4hFwifNL9edp/3oZwiYP7C4DkkJI9 GSCHxR6jYrlMddgHAneF5ikBwRrWXn1gD0JbZj4oD8LrCw9XQ6TETa6814gAE1foWJN+ TErlwanhrj0A2Mpn5izD4A8Z0gdO/kQI4uRJtApN2CRKrM1ejlC8/WOB843DEtLJMj1/ PjMNfiPKJ1JgE2nuXg0Z732NkoySVZ94oz13v1bKfU38wn5Scwqj44FlXZTZ4WCM0lVB ne3/FXcaKdHW5Af5ygILzSwwn+KYGGZtyUCPaeq0L7O2UF7S4W2rklKuKW9CEYJZ7paK TWrQ== X-Received: by 10.220.101.138 with SMTP id c10mr6024755vco.19.1371839669577; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:34:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.228.170 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Kjettrup Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:34:09 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After Effects work for a budget of $1500? To: After Effects Mail List , Anders Sundstedt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a901631bb7804dfae5028 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm04u4c0Bm8rsecN7hISdKdGYINNqJ51WWbXLuFH/qTnynix0eCszh1akE/s0+9eExPpYi5 --047d7b3a901631bb7804dfae5028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Anders The cache is written to the disk if takes longer than xx amount of time to render... or that is how i understand how it works. Someone at Adobe could describe how it works much better, Todd? The problem with AE not overwriting wrong cached frames was much more common just when CS6 was released last year, and is mostly because thirdparty plugins havn't been updated to take care of the disk cache properly. Some times you can work around it by changing some parameter that has no effect on the effect (!) and that will force an update, but sometimes you have to either disable the diskcache (and restart AE) or in worst case, delete ALL your diskcache. But most plugins have been updated to play nicely with the diskcache, so i see it more and more rarely, just make sure you have the latest updates installed. - Robert 2013/6/21 Anders Sundstedt > Hi Robert, > > Regarding the SSD disk cache, I assume cache is saved on the SSD for any > rendered frame (just as on a spinning HD) as long as one doesn=E2=80=99t = go into > settings and clean the disk cache? > > Is it common that AE caches 1 frame wrong like that? > > Thanks > Anders > > *From:* Robert Kjettrup > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:13 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After > Effects work for a budget of $1500? > > And i will agree with all above. Get as much RAM as possible for the > amount of money you want to spend, it should be fairly cheap to put in > 48GB, and a SSD to the disk cache. You will not want to turn back to the > old setup when you start working with AE with huge amounts of RAM and a > fast SSD :-) > > ...only thing is that cleaning the SSD disk cache is a all or nothing, yo= u > will have to loose 500GB perfectly fine disk cache because of 1 frame tha= t > AE cached wrong :-( > > - Robert > > > > 2013/5/15 Lloyd Alvarez > >> RAM and SSD make a really big difference especially if you do multi-proc >> rendering. >> >> >> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Todd Kopriva wr= ote: >> >>> I agree with Mylenium that more RAM and a bigger SSD would be a good >>> idea. Both will help with overall speed, especially if you use the SSD = for >>> the After Effects disk cache. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -------------------------------- >>> Todd Kopriva >>> 1510 E Alder St >>> Seattle, WA 98122 >>> (206)437-2296 >>> -------------------------------- >>> "Mobility is more important than motion." >>> - Gy=C3=B6rgy Seb=C5=91k >>> >> >> > > --047d7b3a901631bb7804dfae5028 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Anders

The cache is written to the d= isk if takes longer than xx amount of time to render... or that is how i un= derstand how it works. Someone at Adobe could describe how it works much be= tter, Todd?
The problem with AE not overwriting wrong cached frames was much= more common just when CS6 was released last year, and is mostly because th= irdparty plugins havn't been updated to take care of the disk cache pro= perly. Some times you can work around it by changing some parameter that ha= s no effect on the effect (!) and that will force an update, but sometimes = you have to either disable the diskcache (and restart AE) or in worst case,= delete ALL your diskcache.=C2=A0
But most plugins have been updated to play nicely with the diskc= ache, so i see it more and more rarely, just make sure you have the latest = updates installed.

- Robert

2013/6/21 Anders Sundstedt <sundste= dt@hotmail.com>
Hi Robert,
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Regarding the SSD disk cache, I assume cache is saved on the SSD for a= ny=20 rendered frame (just as on a spinning HD) as long as one doesn=E2=80=99t go= into=20 settings and clean the disk cache?
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Is it common that AE caches 1 frame wrong like that?

Thanks
Anders
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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for = After=20 Effects work for a budget of $1500?
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And i will agree with all above. Get as much RAM as possib= le for=20 the amount of money you want to spend, it should be fairly cheap to put in = 48GB,=20 and a SSD to the disk cache. You will not want to turn back to the old setu= p=20 when you start working with AE with huge amounts of RAM and a fast SSD :-)= =20
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...only thing is that cleaning the SSD disk cache is a all or nothing,= you=20 will have to loose 500GB perfectly fine disk cache because of 1 frame that = AE=20 cached wrong :-(
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- Robert
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2013/5/15 Lloyd Alvarez <lists@aescripts.com<= /a>>
RAM and SSD make a really big difference especially if y= ou do=20 multi-proc rendering.


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Todd Kopriva= <toddkopriva@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with Mylenium that more RAM= and a bigger SSD would=20 be a good idea. Both will help with overall speed, especially if you us= e the=20 SSD for the After Effects disk cache.=20



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