Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5115256 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:31:09 +0200 Received: by mail-qc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m15so4975455qcq.33 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:41:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=OfNJUYlHgAtn2x0sA3tiBCTEzgZ3a9UBK0rBngcQf0U=; b=0jKmIgr6LLv55BIX0zK8dDRHXO0M3M23HZK3eOcLMCQ1YYFDk/g5vLAYNpcfNKMfsA oLRPM1EG5CYykAEvxsZ3+IkredJj7pFhM4fkz/ybGJ93ktPYul8Bfl/wMAojAS1FGEMf NpbqnkC9EEuOs2asG5OTc2m+4gZw4znK1Gi0G6GmXwyTlZIHbydmaiDpL66wgsQ9Vo+j F/YFvU5mSFaPExAHlCtp0uOi6tb+oSchA4YR/BI5qoSJaAEmVETB2FNiHNNPUDHWrKkw P0fHbpi/x5rCd0hCcNf+iEUgCY5Wh4Txrvm9Vcx0pr50lqfWqyHKu6KeAiUI+xZj9eC4 DN4A== X-Received: by 10.224.1.2 with SMTP id 2mr15673270qad.38.1371843681267; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:41:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.35.164 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:40:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After Effects work for a budget of $1500? To: After Effects Mail List , Anders Sundstedt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3074d4e04f54a104dfaf3f45 --20cf3074d4e04f54a104dfaf3f45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It may be a little more expensive but it will be an absolute beast. You are looking at 5 years of high end performance. Or more, considering you can upgrade every component. Only things I would change The H60 is not enough cooling for that overclock. You need H80 or better, I'd personally go with the H100. Otherwise you will shorten your CPU life I'd suggest a 1000W PSU so you don't have to upgrade in the future. Then you can add more drives and GPU power without worrying about it. It may feel pricey, but it is cheaper than trying to upgrade to a new one down the road. What graphics card are you using? I'd highly suggest finding a used GTX 580. They are awesome for CUDA and a great price. very competitive with a GTX 690 in pure compute performance. And you can add another to upgrade later on On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Anders Sundstedt wr= ote: > Hi, > > Ok I=92ve defined my setup for AE Performance, based on taking into accou= nt > the various recommendations from the helpful people on the AE Mail List > > This is the configuration I=92ve saved as a quote (It=92s overclocked to > 4.6GHz max on delivery): > Case FRACTAL DEFINE R4 BLACK PEARL QUIET MID-TOWER CASE > Overclocked CPU Overclocked Intel=AE Six Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz @ max 4.6G= Hz) > Motherboard ASUS=AE P9X79 PRO: INTEL=AE SOCKET LG2011 > Memory (RAM) 32GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST QUAD-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (4 x 8GB > KIT) > Graphics Card NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD > Memory - 1st Hard Disk 240GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto > 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW) > 2nd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | > 520MB/sW) > 3rd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | > 520MB/sW) > RAID RAID 0 (STRIPED VOLUME - 2 x same size & model HDD / SSD) (=A39) > 1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER =B1R/=B1RW/RAM > Power Supply 650W FSP RAIDER SERIES RA-650 80 PLUS=AE BRONZE (=A359) > Processor Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler > (=A359) > Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (=A39) > Sound Card ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) > Network Facilities WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD (=A316) > USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 > FRONT > PORTS > Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND > Power Cable 1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead) > Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & > Licence (=A3109) > > I was thinking I could buy the graphics card myself or use my current one= . > > Any changes you would make to this setup? > > (the total price above is =A31,700 (GBP) incl VAT and delivery), so it=92= s a > lot more expensive than my initial budget of $1500. > > Thanks > Anders > > > > *From:* Anders Sundstedt > *Sent:* Friday, June 21, 2013 6:36 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After > Effects work for a budget of $1500? > > Hi Teddy, > > If one can afford it, is there a faster CPU that overclocks faster and > outperforms the Intel 3770k? My concern is that I would rather buy an > already overclocked custom PC at 4.5 gHz so I don=92t have to try and > overclock it myself in case that fails. > (like I=92ve failed to do with my current i7 930, hardly overclocks at al= l > for me). > Is there any reason to consider getting one of these new Haswell i7 > processors, or are they not any faster for AE work? I read they are not > faster online. > > Thanks > Anders > > > > *From:* Teddy Gage > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:13 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After > Effects work for a budget of $1500? > > For that price here is the setup id recommend. May come out a bit over on > price but you will be set for the next couple years > > Intel 3770k cpu @ 3.2ghz (easy to overclock) > 1x 64 gb ssd to install your os > 2x 128 gb ssd in raid 0 for cache and projects > 1x 1TB 7200 rpm storage hdd > 16 gb 2133 mhz RAM (or 32 gb if you can afford it) > Corsair cpu water cooler either h100 or h80 > Find a used nvidia gtx 580 for around $250-350, great for cuda and > premiere encoding, including raytrace > 700 w power supply > > My 2 c but that would be a great machine for your needs > > > > On Wednesday, May 15, 2013, Anders Sundstedt wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The computer I have is a few years old now, the spec is: >> >> Intel Core i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80 GHz >> 12.0 GB RAM >> Windows 7 64 bit >> ATI FirePro V3800 graphics card >> 2 x 24 inch 1920x1200 monitors. >> 1 x OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA 60 GB SSD drive (for Windows 7 and Software). >> (3 x Internal Hard Drives for scratch disk, projects and source files >> etc. (all NTFS, one Hitachi rest WDC)). >> >> At the time this computer was a lot more than $1500. >> >> Now, since I assume a lot has happened since I got this (3rd generation >> i7 CPU=92s etc. and faster graphics cards) I wanted your input on what i= s the >> top performing custom built or pre-built PC for this type of projects: >> >> The type of After Effects (CS6) work would be: >> 1920x1080, 24 fps, short videos typically 1-3 minute animations with >> standard 3D layers and Camera, Lights. >> (Ray-traced 3D would currently not be so important as it doesn=92t suppo= rt: >> blending modes, layer styles and masks and effects on continuously >> rasterized layers (including text and shape transfers)). >> >> Any advice on what is the fastest that could replace it that would make = a >> big difference? (minimum 1 hard drive for operative system and one for >> project and one for scratch disk). >> >> Alternatively what would be the best component to replace/upgrade to mak= e >> the current setup much faster? >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> -Anders >> >> > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > > --=20 Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --20cf3074d4e04f54a104dfaf3f45 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It may be a little more expensive but it will be an absolu= te beast. You are looking at 5 years of high end performance. Or more, cons= idering you can upgrade every component.

Only thin= gs I would change

The H60 is not enough cooling for that over= clock. You need H80 or better, I'd personally go with the H100. Otherwi= se you will shorten your CPU life

I'd suggest a 1000W PSU so you don't have to upgrade in the future.= Then you can add more drives and GPU power without worrying about it. It m= ay feel pricey, but it is cheaper than trying to upgrade to a new one down = the road.

What graphics card are you using? I'd h= ighly suggest finding a used GTX 580. They are awesome for CUDA and a great= price. very competitive with a GTX 690 in pure compute performance. And yo= u can add another to upgrade later on


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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Anders = Sundstedt <sundstedt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
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Ok I=92ve defined my setup for AE Performance, based on taking into ac= count=20 the various recommendations from the helpful people on the AE Mail=20 List

This is the configuration I=92ve saved as a quote (It=92s overc= locked to=20 4.6GHz max on delivery):
Case FRACTAL DEFINE R4 BLACK PEARL QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Overclocked CPU Overclocked Intel=AE Six Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz @ max= =20 4.6GHz)
Motherboard ASUS=AE P9X79 PRO: INTEL=AE SOCKET LG2011
Memory (RAM) 32GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST QUAD-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (4 x 8= GB=20 KIT)
Graphics Card NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
Memory - 1st Hard Disk 240GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/= s (upto=20 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/s= R |=20 520MB/sW)
3rd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/s= R |=20 520MB/sW)
RAID RAID 0 (STRIPED VOLUME - 2 x same size & model HDD / SSD)=20 (=A39)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER =B1R/=B1RW/RAM
Power Supply 650W FSP RAIDER SERIES RA-650 80 PLUS=AE BRONZE (=A359)
Processor Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler= =20 (=A359)
Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (=A39)=
Sound Card ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD (=A316)
USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MI= N. 2=20 FRONT
PORTS
Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND
Power Cable 1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD= =20 & Licence (=A3109)
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I was thinking I could buy the graphics card myself or use my current= =20 one.
=A0
Any changes you would make to this setup?
=A0
(the total price above is =A31,700 (GBP) incl VAT and delivery), so it= =92s a=20 lot more expensive than my initial budget of=20 $1500.

Thanks
Anders
=A0
=A0
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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for = After=20 Effects work for a budget of $1500?
=A0
Hi Teddy,
=A0
If one can afford it, is there a faster CPU that overclocks faster and= =20 outperforms the Intel 3770k? My concern is that I would rather buy an alrea= dy=20 overclocked custom PC at 4.5 gHz so I don=92t have to try and overclock it = myself=20 in case that fails.
(like I=92ve failed to do with my current i7 930, hardly overclocks at= all=20 for me).
Is there any reason to consider getting one of these new Haswel= l i7=20 processors, or are they not any faster for AE work? I read they are not fas= ter=20 online.
=A0
Thanks
Anders
=A0
=A0
=A0
From: Teddy Gage
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for = After=20 Effects work for a budget of $1500?
=A0
For=20 that price here is the setup id recommend. May come out a bit over on price= but=20 you will be set for the next couple years=20
=A0
Intel 3770k cpu @ 3.2ghz (easy to overclock)
1x 64 gb ssd to install your os
2x 128 gb ssd in raid 0 for cache and projects
1x 1TB 7200 rpm storage hdd
16 gb 2133 mhz RAM (or 32 gb if you can afford it)
Corsair cpu water cooler either h100 or h80
Find a used nvidia gtx 580 for around $250-350, great for cuda and pre= miere=20 encoding, including raytrace
700 w power supply
=A0
My 2 c but that would be a great machine for your needs
=A0


On Wednesday, May 15, 2013, Anders Sundstedt wrote:
Hi,
=A0
The computer I have is a few years old now, the spec is:
=A0
Intel Core i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80 GHz
12.0 GB RAM
Windows 7 64 bit
ATI FirePro V3800 graphics card
2 x 24 inch 1920x1200 monitors.
1 x OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA 60 GB SSD dri= ve=20 (for Windows 7 and Software).
(3 x Internal Hard Drives for scratch di= sk,=20 projects and source files etc. (all NTFS, one Hitachi rest WDC)).
=A0
At the time this computer was a lot more than $1500.

Now, since I assume a lot has happened since I got this (3rd=20 generation i7 CPU=92s etc. and faster graphics cards) I wanted your input= on=20 what is the top performing custom built or pre-built PC for this type of= =20 projects:

The type of After Effects (CS6) work would be:
1920x1080, 24 fps, short videos typically 1-3 minute animations with= =20 standard 3D layers and Camera, Lights.
(Ray-traced 3D would currently not be so important as it doesn=92t s= upport:=20 blending modes, layer styles and masks and effects on continuously raster= ized=20 layers (including text and shape transfers)).

Any advice on what i= s the=20 fastest that could replace it that would make a big difference? (minimum = 1=20 hard drive for operative system and one for project and one for scratch= =20 disk).

Alternatively what would be the best component to=20 replace/upgrade to make the current setup much faster?

Thanks in= =20 advance!

-Anders
=A0
=

--=20
Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn




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www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn
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