Return-Path: Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.232.236] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5115268 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:34:16 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.250] (rrcs-173-196-53-166.west.biz.rr.com [173.196.53.166]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MOR009FBDHOLB60@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:44:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-21_07:2013-06-21,2013-06-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1306210180 From: rik bogusz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2D36F0CB-190A-4597-9F74-0B8588C7B5C9" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After Effects work for a budget of $1500? Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:44:12 -0700 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) --Apple-Mail=_2D36F0CB-190A-4597-9F74-0B8588C7B5C9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 that case might not fit the h100i. but yeah, i agree on the h100, that's = what i went with On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > It may be a little more expensive but it will be an absolute beast. = You are looking at 5 years of high end performance. Or more, considering = you can upgrade every component. >=20 > Only things I would change >=20 > The H60 is not enough cooling for that overclock. You need H80 or = better, I'd personally go with the H100. Otherwise you will shorten your = CPU life >=20 > I'd suggest a 1000W PSU so you don't have to upgrade in the future. = Then you can add more drives and GPU power without worrying about it. It = may feel pricey, but it is cheaper than trying to upgrade to a new one = down the road. >=20 > What graphics card are you using? I'd highly suggest finding a used = GTX 580. They are awesome for CUDA and a great price. very competitive = with a GTX 690 in pure compute performance. And you can add another to = upgrade later on >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Anders Sundstedt = wrote: > Hi, > =20 > Ok I=92ve defined my setup for AE Performance, based on taking into = account the various recommendations from the helpful people on the AE = Mail List >=20 > This is the configuration I=92ve saved as a quote (It=92s overclocked = to 4.6GHz max on delivery): > Case FRACTAL DEFINE R4 BLACK PEARL QUIET MID-TOWER CASE > Overclocked CPU Overclocked Intel=AE Six Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz @ max = 4.6GHz) > Motherboard ASUS=AE P9X79 PRO: INTEL=AE SOCKET LG2011 > Memory (RAM) 32GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST QUAD-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (4 x = 8GB KIT) > Graphics Card NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD > Memory - 1st Hard Disk 240GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s = (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW) > 2nd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto = 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW) > 3rd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto = 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW) > RAID RAID 0 (STRIPED VOLUME - 2 x same size & model HDD / SSD) (=A39) > 1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER =B1R/=B1RW/RAM > Power Supply 650W FSP RAIDER SERIES RA-650 80 PLUS=AE BRONZE (=A359) > Processor Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler = (=A359) > Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (=A39) > Sound Card ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) > Network Facilities WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD (=A316) > USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 = FRONT > PORTS > Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND > Power Cable 1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead) > Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD = & Licence (=A3109) > =20 > I was thinking I could buy the graphics card myself or use my current = one. > =20 > Any changes you would make to this setup? > =20 > (the total price above is =A31,700 (GBP) incl VAT and delivery), so = it=92s a lot more expensive than my initial budget of $1500. >=20 > Thanks > Anders > =20 > =20 > =20 > From: Anders Sundstedt > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:36 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After = Effects work for a budget of $1500? > =20 > Hi Teddy, > =20 > If one can afford it, is there a faster CPU that overclocks faster and = outperforms the Intel 3770k? My concern is that I would rather buy an = already overclocked custom PC at 4.5 gHz so I don=92t have to try and = overclock it myself in case that fails. > (like I=92ve failed to do with my current i7 930, hardly overclocks at = all for me). > Is there any reason to consider getting one of these new Haswell i7 = processors, or are they not any faster for AE work? I read they are not = faster online. > =20 > Thanks > Anders > =20 > =20 > =20 > From: Teddy Gage > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:13 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible for After = Effects work for a budget of $1500? > =20 > For that price here is the setup id recommend. May come out a bit over = on price but you will be set for the next couple years > =20 > Intel 3770k cpu @ 3.2ghz (easy to overclock) > 1x 64 gb ssd to install your os > 2x 128 gb ssd in raid 0 for cache and projects > 1x 1TB 7200 rpm storage hdd > 16 gb 2133 mhz RAM (or 32 gb if you can afford it) > Corsair cpu water cooler either h100 or h80 > Find a used nvidia gtx 580 for around $250-350, great for cuda and = premiere encoding, including raytrace > 700 w power supply > =20 > My 2 c but that would be a great machine for your needs > =20 >=20 >=20 > On Wednesday, May 15, 2013, Anders Sundstedt wrote: > Hi, > =20 > The computer I have is a few years old now, the spec is: > =20 > Intel Core i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80 GHz > 12.0 GB RAM > Windows 7 64 bit > ATI FirePro V3800 graphics card > 2 x 24 inch 1920x1200 monitors. > 1 x OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA 60 GB SSD drive (for Windows 7 and Software). > (3 x Internal Hard Drives for scratch disk, projects and source files = etc. (all NTFS, one Hitachi rest WDC)). > =20 > At the time this computer was a lot more than $1500. >=20 > Now, since I assume a lot has happened since I got this (3rd = generation i7 CPU=92s etc. and faster graphics cards) I wanted your = input on what is the top performing custom built or pre-built PC for = this type of projects: >=20 > The type of After Effects (CS6) work would be: > 1920x1080, 24 fps, short videos typically 1-3 minute animations with = standard 3D layers and Camera, Lights. > (Ray-traced 3D would currently not be so important as it doesn=92t = support: blending modes, layer styles and masks and effects on = continuously rasterized layers (including text and shape transfers)). >=20 > Any advice on what is the fastest that could replace it that would = make a big difference? (minimum 1 hard drive for operative system and = one for project and one for scratch disk). >=20 > Alternatively what would be the best component to replace/upgrade to = make the current setup much faster? >=20 > Thanks in advance! >=20 > -Anders > =20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn --Apple-Mail=_2D36F0CB-190A-4597-9F74-0B8588C7B5C9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 that = case might not fit the h100i. but yeah, i agree on the h100, that's what = i went with


On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:40 = PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> = wrote:

It may be a little more expensive but it = will be an absolute beast. You are looking at 5 years of high end = performance. Or more, considering you can upgrade every = component.

Only things I would = change

The H60 is not enough cooling = for that overclock. You need H80 or better, I'd personally go with the = H100. Otherwise you will shorten your CPU life

I'd suggest a 1000W PSU so you don't have to upgrade in the future. Then = you can add more drives and GPU power without worrying about it. It may = feel pricey, but it is cheaper than trying to upgrade to a new one down = the road.

What graphics card are you = using? I'd highly suggest finding a used GTX 580. They are awesome for = CUDA and a great price. very competitive with a GTX 690 in pure compute = performance. And you can add another to upgrade later on




On Fri, Jun 21, = 2013 at 3:31 PM, Anders Sundstedt <sundstedt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
 
Ok I=92ve defined my setup for AE Performance, based on taking into = account=20 the various recommendations from the helpful people on the AE Mail=20 List

This is the configuration I=92ve saved as a quote (It=92s = overclocked to=20 4.6GHz max on delivery):
Case FRACTAL DEFINE R4 BLACK PEARL QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Overclocked CPU Overclocked Intel=AE Six Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz @ = max=20 4.6GHz)
Motherboard ASUS=AE P9X79 PRO: INTEL=AE SOCKET LG2011
Memory (RAM) 32GB KINGSTON HYPERX BEAST QUAD-DDR3 2400MHz X.M.P (4 = x 8GB=20 KIT)
Graphics Card NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
Memory - 1st Hard Disk 240GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 = Gb/s (upto=20 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto = 550MB/sR |=20 520MB/sW)
3rd Hard Disk 120GB INTEL=AE 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto = 550MB/sR |=20 520MB/sW)
RAID RAID 0 (STRIPED VOLUME - 2 x same size & model HDD / SSD)=20= (=A39)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER =B1R/=B1RW/RAM
Power Supply 650W FSP RAIDER SERIES RA-650 80 PLUS=AE BRONZE = (=A359)
Processor Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Series High Performance CPU = Cooler=20 (=A359)
Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND = (=A39)
Sound Card ONBOARD 8 CHANNEL (7.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS = STANDARD)
Network Facilities WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps PCI-E CARD = (=A316)
USB Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + = MIN. 2=20 FRONT
PORTS
Modem NONE, I WILL BE USING BROADBAND
Power Cable 1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc = DVD=20 & Licence (=A3109)
 
I was thinking I could buy the graphics card myself or use my = current=20 one.
 
Any changes you would make to this setup?
 
(the total price above is =A31,700 (GBP) incl VAT and delivery), so = it=92s a=20 lot more expensive than my initial budget of=20 $1500.

Thanks
Anders
 
 
 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible = for After=20 Effects work for a budget of $1500?
 
Hi Teddy,
 
If one can afford it, is there a faster CPU that overclocks faster = and=20 outperforms the Intel 3770k? My concern is that I would rather buy an = already=20 overclocked custom PC at 4.5 gHz so I don=92t have to try and overclock = it myself=20 in case that fails.
(like I=92ve failed to do with my current i7 930, hardly overclocks = at all=20 for me).
Is there any reason to consider getting one of these new = Haswell i7=20 processors, or are they not any faster for AE work? I read they are not = faster=20 online.
 
Thanks
Anders
 
 
 
From: Teddy Gage =
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AE] The currently fastest PC config possible = for After=20 Effects work for a budget of $1500?
 
For=20 that price here is the setup id recommend. May come out a bit over on = price but=20 you will be set for the next couple years=20
 
Intel 3770k cpu @ 3.2ghz (easy to overclock)
1x 64 gb ssd to install your os
2x 128 gb ssd in raid 0 for cache and projects
1x 1TB 7200 rpm storage hdd
16 gb 2133 mhz RAM (or 32 gb if you can afford it)
Corsair cpu water cooler either h100 or h80
Find a used nvidia gtx 580 for around $250-350, great for cuda and = premiere=20 encoding, including raytrace
700 w power supply
 
My 2 c but that would be a great machine for your = needs
 


On Wednesday, May 15, 2013, Anders Sundstedt wrote:
Hi,
 
The computer I have is a few years old now, the spec is:
 
Intel Core i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80 GHz
12.0 GB RAM
Windows 7 64 bit
ATI FirePro V3800 graphics card
2 x 24 inch 1920x1200 monitors.
1 x OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA 60 GB SSD = drive=20 (for Windows 7 and Software).
(3 x Internal Hard Drives for scratch = disk,=20 projects and source files etc. (all NTFS, one Hitachi rest = WDC)).
 
At the time this computer was a lot more than $1500.

Now, since I assume a lot has happened since I got this (3rd=20= generation i7 CPU=92s etc. and faster graphics cards) I wanted your = input on=20 what is the top performing custom built or pre-built PC for this type = of=20 projects:

The type of After Effects (CS6) work would be:
1920x1080, 24 fps, short videos typically 1-3 minute animations = with=20 standard 3D layers and Camera, Lights.
(Ray-traced 3D would currently not be so important as it doesn=92t = support:=20 blending modes, layer styles and masks and effects on continuously = rasterized=20 layers (including text and shape transfers)).

Any advice on = what is the=20 fastest that could replace it that would make a big difference? = (minimum 1=20 hard drive for operative system and one for project and one for = scratch=20 disk).

Alternatively what would be the best component to=20 replace/upgrade to make the current setup much faster?

Thanks = in=20 = advance!

-Anders
 


--=20
Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn




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Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn

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