Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5119553 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:40:47 +0200 Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fe20so11329017lab.20 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:51:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2XDL7AvSmOHZ22d0MDh3jul44vCIHBcltisirmn4JEA=; b=NBLBXCo0T7mevXC5hOghIdNIztYEekxx3963Gmlsxps5t4Y4cWt0jHa3Qn/GCstkYX 0wDO3qYXsOFP1LY3bf5xqwBA3FX7tBFVwOiyZx30WzXXDP8HjURaTHlVI4j/UVVtY9vT atNYK6bPWlErmII8t/xATzBpk+hGReTIXOdRqxewPkWRPAJrBMaIQmy8tqH1xp1DwaJM JuxkmyHWO8YwZWJLab2+DmWE34gyamZCf1zfdk1FjfkmapXRGx8tNaV7DyJuyslXbvUy LlhrXY6fDnHyZKVxG14/4xIFaVNj/N4BUV902v5tP5Tw2soV/Chuj4rwUuu+AAi8w5YX VodQ== X-Received: by 10.112.209.3 with SMTP id mi3mr13831772lbc.87.1372125066692; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:51:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.16.135 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:50:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jeff Almasol Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:50:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Comps Not Syncing To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3826e300f4f04dff0c3df --001a11c3826e300f4f04dff0c3df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable re: C... base frame. hmm, are you using multiple roto brush spans, or just a single span? i believe there was an issue (fixed in CC) that dealt with the end frames of adjacent spans when a temporal-related property (e.g., reduce chatter or use motion blur) was enabled. if two spans are abutting at the problem frame, it's probably this issue. aside from trying CC (probably not a thing to do on deadline), it _might_ be possible to remove one of the spans, lengthen the other to cover it, to see if that helps. however, the segmentation might change with the underlying foreground & background strokes now using a different base frame. thanks in advance for sending a sample project. :jeff On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Lachlan Westfall w= rote: > Jeff, > > VERY good questions.... > > A) purging the memory DID change the display at one point. But the proble= m > came back the next time I did anything. One frame earlier if I recall... > > B) 11.0.2.11 > > C) It=92s the roto-brushed footage and it seems that the problem occurs > right when there=92s a =93Key Frame=94 (I know that=92s not what it=92s c= alled) in > the roto brush. > > D) this always happens when there are multiple projects on deadline. I=92= ll > try to get a simplified project together in the morning. > > Thanks!!!! > > -L > > > > On 6/24/13 5:43 PM, "Jeff Almasol" wrote: > > hi lachlan, > > if you're parked on the problem frame, does purging the memory cache fix > it? if not, and if the disk cache is enabled, try disabling/emptying the > disk cache, then purging the memory cache. does that fix it? > > are you on 11.0.2? it fixed a few caching-related bugs. > > is it the roto brushed footage or masked footage that's causing the > problem (i.e., if you mute one or other does the problem no longer appear= )? > > if neither fixes it, would you be able to send us (aebugs@adobe.com) a > simplified project, and w/ sample footage (if it's related to roto brush)= ? > > thanks, > :jeff > > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Lachlan Westfall > wrote: > > I=92m doing a roto job in AE CS6 > > It=92s a combo of rotobrush and standard rotoscoping. > > I having a problem where on certain frames the comps will go out of sync > for one frame and then be right on the next frame. > > Details: > > EVERYTHING is at 24fps. > > Footage is lots of hands waving. > > I have one source comp with the footage in it. I=92ll drag that comp into= a > master comp and then roto out a hand. > > Then I=92ll drag the SAME source comp into the master comp and roto out a= n > arm. > > When I RAM preview or Render, they=92ll go out of sync about 10 frames in= . > > I=92ve even rendered out the clips and re-imported as a PS sequencing > thinking it might be a QuickTime issue. Same problem. > > Any ideas? > > -Lachlan Westfall > Quiet Earth Design > > > > > --001a11c3826e300f4f04dff0c3df Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
re: C... base frame.

hmm, are you= using multiple roto brush spans, or just a single span? i believe there wa= s an issue (fixed in CC) that dealt with the end frames of adjacent spans w= hen a temporal-related property (e.g., reduce chatter or use motion blur) w= as enabled. if two spans are abutting at the problem frame, it's probab= ly this issue. aside from trying CC (probably not a thing to do on deadline= ), it _might_ be possible to remove one of the spans, lengthen the other to= cover it, to see if that helps. however, the segmentation might change wit= h the underlying foreground & background strokes now using a different = base frame.

thanks in advance for sending a sample proj= ect.

:jeff

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On Mon, = Jun 24, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Lachlan Westfall <lachlan@quietearth.net= > wrote:
Jeff,

VERY good questions....

A) purging the memory DID change the display at one point. But the problem = came back the next time I did anything. One frame earlier if I recall...
B) 11.0.2.11

C) It=92s the roto-brushed footage and it seems that the problem occurs rig= ht when there=92s a =93Key Frame=94 (I know that=92s not what it=92s called= ) in the roto brush.

D) this always happens when there are multiple projects on deadline. I=92ll= try to get a simplified project together in the morning.

Thanks!!!!

-L



On 6/24/13 5:43 PM, "Jeff Almasol" <redefinery@gmail.com> wrote:

= hi lachlan,

if you're parked on the problem frame, does purging the memory cache fi= x it? if not, and if the disk cache is enabled, try disabling/emptying the = disk cache, then purging the memory cache. does that fix it?

are you on 11.0.2? it fixed a few caching-related bugs.

is it the roto brushed footage or masked footage that's causing the pro= blem (i.e., if you mute one or other does the problem no longer appear)?
if neither fixes it, would you be able to send us (aebugs@adobe.com) a simplified project, a= nd w/ sample footage (if it's related to roto brush)?

thanks,
:jeff




On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Lachlan Westfall <lachlan@quietearth.net> wrote= :
I=92m doing a roto job in AE CS6
It=92s a combo of rotobrush and standard rotoscoping.

I having a problem where on certain frames the comps will go out of sync fo= r one frame and then be right on the next frame.

Details:

EVERYTHING is at 24fps.

Footage is lots of hands waving.

I have one source comp with the footage in it. I=92ll drag that comp into a= master comp and then roto out a hand.

Then I=92ll drag the SAME source comp into the master comp and roto out an = arm.

When I RAM preview or Render, they=92ll go out of sync about 10 frames in.<= br>
I=92ve even rendered out the clips and re-imported as a PS sequencing think= ing it might be a QuickTime issue. Same problem.

Any ideas?

-Lachlan Westfall
Quiet Earth Design




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