Return-Path: Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp002.mac.com ([17.158.232.237] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5134537 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:19:33 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.68] ([99.152.153.100]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MPM00ML1LTXSDC0@nk11p03mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 16:30:00 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-08_02:2013-07-08,2013-07-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307080138 From: Jim Curtis MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9CD71DB4-7692-4600-9777-AB1335F39A10" Subject: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER! Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 11:29:56 -0500 In-reply-to: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_9CD71DB4-7692-4600-9777-AB1335F39A10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK, let me suggest something else. When you reinstalled, did you start = with a clean set of prefs? =20 Corrupt prefs is the number one problem I have with both Ae and Pr. Consequently, I'm disinclined to let the Cloud automatically save and = load copies of my prefs, as it seems possible that corrupt prefs could = be both loading and unloading (synching) and causing havoc. =20 I usually suggest that users start an install with a clean set of prefs, = find their location on disk, compress/zip/archive them, create an alias = of their location to the desktop, and refresh the prefs from the zip = whenever corruption is suspected. I suppose you could turn off MP, also. And, if you don't have it = already, you could try using the excellent third-party Background Render = script, and maybe what the heck, see what happens if you use AME for = rendering. On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Greg Balint wrote: > I tried creating a new project (once this problem starts happening) = and creating just a solid with a bunch of effects on it and trying to = render that.. it hangs just the same.. with no imported media and just a = solid and some effects. >=20 > it looks like even when I quit After Effects, a couple of the = AfterFX.exe processes continue to remain running and I have to kill them = manually. >=20 > I've noticed, if I go into settings and turn off MP, then go kill = those extra processes, and then turn it back on it'll load fresh = executions of the render nodes and it'll render just fine... then I go = back to my problem project and it does the same again.. >=20 > so once the problem starts, it's there until processes are re-started. = it MAY be a corrupt video file, but other times I render it's been fine. = even this morning I got ONE good render, and then this problem reared = its head once again. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > Could it be corrupt media? Have you tried this with another project? = If so, that might inculpate some media in the project that's hanging. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Greg Balint wrote: >=20 > > Hey all, > > > > I'm under a deadline right now, and trying to get my final render = going to send off to the client for approvals today. > > > > the project I'm working on isn't very intensive. it's a flat video = and graphics sizzle reel style loop. about 2 minutes long with a music = track. most assets are either ultra large (print res) tifs of products, = or video footage from previous presentations. > > > > this sort of project shouldn't take much for my machine to render, = but it's causing a ton of problems. > > > > I'm using CC but I've also tried saving down and rendering from CS6 = and I'm getting the same issues. > > > > Basically, using MP, I click render, and the info panel says = "Initializing Background Processes. This may take some time". > > > > I'm used to that, and normal rendered sequences would do this for = maybe 10 seconds before beginning renders.. > > > > This time however, it's getting hung up here.. taking 10 minutes or = even more sometimes.. (honestly I've just canceled them when they run = this long) > > > > if they end up getting through this stage, I'm presented with an = error at the end of the render stating something to the lines of "failed = to load projects in background" > > > > > > The weird part is, I can restart my system, open AE and render, and = it usually works ok.. but any renders after that first one will get hung = up and not render. as if the self-link processes aren't receiving the = new info, or aren't dumping the old stuff. > > > > Anyway around this? I uninstalled all adobe products and ran adobe = cleaner and re-installed AE this morning, and it's still doing this. I = currently can't get my render to start with MP on, and i sure need it on = this project. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > ////Greg >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 --Apple-Mail=_9CD71DB4-7692-4600-9777-AB1335F39A10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 OK, = let me suggest something else.  When you reinstalled, did you start = with a clean set of prefs?  

Corrupt prefs is = the number one problem I have with both Ae and = Pr.

Consequently, I'm disinclined to let the Cloud = automatically save and load copies of my prefs, as it seems possible = that corrupt prefs could be both loading and unloading (synching) and = causing havoc.  

I usually suggest that = users start an install with a clean set of prefs, find their location on = disk, compress/zip/archive them, create an alias of their location to = the desktop, and refresh the prefs from the zip whenever corruption is = suspected.

I suppose you could turn off MP, also. =  And, if you don't have it already, you could try using the = excellent third-party Background Render script, and maybe what the heck, = see what happens if you use AME for = rendering.


On Jul 8, 2013, at = 11:21 AM, Greg Balint wrote:

I tried creating a new project (once this problem starts = happening) and creating just a solid with a bunch of effects on it and = trying to render that.. it hangs just the same.. with no imported media = and just a solid and some effects.

it looks like even when I quit After Effects, a couple of = the AfterFX.exe processes continue to remain running and I have to kill = them manually.

I've noticed, if I go into = settings and turn off MP, then go kill those extra processes, and then = turn it back on it'll load fresh executions of the render nodes and = it'll render just fine... then I go back to my problem project and it = does the same again..

so once the problem starts, it's there until = processes are re-started. it MAY be a corrupt video file, but other = times I render it's been fine. even this morning I got ONE good render, = and then this problem reared its head once again.




On Mon, Jul 8, = 2013 at 12:16 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:
Could it be corrupt = media?  Have you tried this with another project?  If so, that = might inculpate some media in the project that's hanging.



On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Greg Balint wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I'm under a deadline right now, and trying to get my final render = going to send off to the client for approvals today.
>
> the project I'm working on isn't very intensive. it's a flat video = and graphics sizzle reel style loop. about 2 minutes long with a music = track.  most assets are either ultra large (print res) tifs of = products, or video footage from previous presentations.
>
> this sort of project shouldn't take much for my machine to render, = but it's causing a ton of problems.
>
> I'm using CC but I've also tried saving down and rendering from CS6 = and I'm getting the same issues.
>
> Basically, using MP, I click render, and the info panel says = "Initializing Background Processes. This may take some time".
>
> I'm used to that, and normal rendered sequences would do this for = maybe 10 seconds before beginning renders..
>
> This time however, it's getting hung up here.. taking 10 minutes or = even more sometimes.. (honestly I've just canceled them when they run = this long)
>
> if they end up getting through this stage, I'm presented with an = error at the end of the render stating something to the lines of "failed = to load projects in background"
>
>
> The weird part is, I can restart my system, open AE and render, and = it usually works ok.. but any renders after that first one will get hung = up and not render. as if the self-link processes aren't receiving the = new info, or aren't dumping the old stuff.
>
> Anyway around this? I uninstalled all adobe products and ran adobe = cleaner and re-installed AE this morning, and it's still doing this. I = currently can't get my render to start with MP on, and i sure need it on = this project.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> ////Greg


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