Thanks Jim, 

When I uninstalled and re-installed, I removed the prefs along with it.   i DID however sync them back when I opened the fresh copy.. 

From what I had gathered though, the MP settings don't get synced anywhere, so i figured that was safe.. maybe not?

I've at least made some changes with MP off, using a previously rendered proof to cover most of the comp and splitting it to show the changed layer below when changes were made.. this got me a deliverable for today's deadline, so I'm not in rush mode anymore.. but this still needs some research to fix.. 

I'll update if the other suggestions help.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:

OK, let me suggest something else.  When you reinstalled, did you start with a clean set of prefs?  

Corrupt prefs is the number one problem I have with both Ae and Pr.

Consequently, I'm disinclined to let the Cloud automatically save and load copies of my prefs, as it seems possible that corrupt prefs could be both loading and unloading (synching) and causing havoc.  

I usually suggest that users start an install with a clean set of prefs, find their location on disk, compress/zip/archive them, create an alias of their location to the desktop, and refresh the prefs from the zip whenever corruption is suspected.

I suppose you could turn off MP, also.  And, if you don't have it already, you could try using the excellent third-party Background Render script, and maybe what the heck, see what happens if you use AME for rendering.

On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Greg Balint wrote:

I tried creating a new project (once this problem starts happening) and creating just a solid with a bunch of effects on it and trying to render that.. it hangs just the same.. with no imported media and just a solid and some effects.

it looks like even when I quit After Effects, a couple of the AfterFX.exe processes continue to remain running and I have to kill them manually.

I've noticed, if I go into settings and turn off MP, then go kill those extra processes, and then turn it back on it'll load fresh executions of the render nodes and it'll render just fine... then I go back to my problem project and it does the same again..

so once the problem starts, it's there until processes are re-started. it MAY be a corrupt video file, but other times I render it's been fine. even this morning I got ONE good render, and then this problem reared its head once again.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:

Could it be corrupt media?  Have you tried this with another project?  If so, that might inculpate some media in the project that's hanging.

On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Greg Balint wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I'm under a deadline right now, and trying to get my final render going to send off to the client for approvals today.
>
> the project I'm working on isn't very intensive. it's a flat video and graphics sizzle reel style loop. about 2 minutes long with a music track.  most assets are either ultra large (print res) tifs of products, or video footage from previous presentations.
>
> this sort of project shouldn't take much for my machine to render, but it's causing a ton of problems.
>
> I'm using CC but I've also tried saving down and rendering from CS6 and I'm getting the same issues.
>
> Basically, using MP, I click render, and the info panel says "Initializing Background Processes. This may take some time".
>
> I'm used to that, and normal rendered sequences would do this for maybe 10 seconds before beginning renders..
>
> This time however, it's getting hung up here.. taking 10 minutes or even more sometimes.. (honestly I've just canceled them when they run this long)
>
> if they end up getting through this stage, I'm presented with an error at the end of the render stating something to the lines of "failed to load projects in background"
>
>
> The weird part is, I can restart my system, open AE and render, and it usually works ok.. but any renders after that first one will get hung up and not render. as if the self-link processes aren't receiving the new info, or aren't dumping the old stuff.
>
> Anyway around this? I uninstalled all adobe products and ran adobe cleaner and re-installed AE this morning, and it's still doing this. I currently can't get my render to start with MP on, and i sure need it on this project.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> ////Greg

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