Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5135554 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:33:22 +0200 Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id a1so3065178qcx.39 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 08:44:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=teiHHqi+icOObrmi/44YbkgMm5/oaV7LjM/AuWVj9/o=; b=wSes77eGybe19/wSdfvJPkudi69CYw3fQtVDToDLZNW6a6yZ77/Ei80b0h2aOfidP6 YJUhUS0xOJUKbm65cWdu6lHqoZ4KkN0YVZXn8LKgKwIlwf85cNVpUd/PCOsP9KGOH70M I9hXfnCUEzpi5qu/ii8A7wb4B266T0g52k/rw1R+NNQHlVho2XwlmZRxRw0Ze1jGDwRb EDoeq38EYUZ8Cf/qc0Rsk7v7F5/g1TJ23fB1hnIPL1DEMDHFn6qE62IglWuFyr8KPwnv K7qwcS+rgmJ7KYRfTGkUL1HOUQOHjM2Oq2pLvYH1Yt7aPdDX+ZODnXNRg51mKlkWF6G3 HbkA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.130.8 with SMTP id oa8mr21465103qeb.87.1373384648314; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 08:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.192.199 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:44:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:44:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER! From: Greg Balint To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b873a0a1a593d04e11608fb --047d7b873a0a1a593d04e11608fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, so I think I'm in the clear here. I ran CCleaner and dumped a ton of registry issues (missing dlls, old junk, etc.) then I cleaned up the startup processes to only essential stuff. I ran RAM tests and everything checked out alright, so I'm pretty sure something was just intercepting the processes, or causing hangs for other reasons. I got some renders made again, and then the problem started resurrecting. I had to go turn off MP, start and cancel a render, then turn MP back on for things to work. Even so.. there'd be extra AfterFX.exe processes running that would never go away, even after quitting AE. Finally, sat down and took all my Tifs and just saved them as compressed JPG files.. (nothing horrible, but enough that they weren't tifs and they were smaller in file-size) This didn't help the hang-ups, but it helped my render time a LITTLE when it did work.. then, I went through all of my video files, and was going to convert them all to a single codec (instead of all the strewn around delivery formats I received from the client.) I was placing everything in my AME queue, and I noticed one of the video files wouldn't import.. it would hang AME.. so I opened it in QT and converted it out of there. Turns out it was that file that was killing everything.. it was a file that I had originally converted to ProRes 444 from Cinec. it just wouldn't load in AME to convert, and once I converted it in QT and converted the rest of the video clips to the same format, everything has been butter. seriously.. thanks for that suggestion.. I would never have expected it, considering AE never gave warning of the file having issue.. Also.. I went from about 30 minute render times for a 2 minute piece, down to 16:40 on my last test.. just from converting those Tifs and video clips alone.. I didn't even resize the tifs, just changed them to jpg format. anyway.. Thanks a ton to all that chimed in.. seems I'm in good repair now. my "initializing background processes" message takes about 20 seconds before beginning the render, and I'm golden. Cheers! ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Michael Powers wrote: > I sometimes go to task manager and end the Adobe QT32 Server.exe process > when I am having MP issues. **** > > You=92ll need re-launch AfterFX, as it won=92t recognize quicktimes. Don= =92t > know if this is voodoo, but it sometimes fixes slow MP starts for me.**** > > **** > > ** ** > > *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] *On > Behalf Of *Jim Lang > *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 3:21 PM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER!***= * > > ** ** > > I'm with Jayse, cutting down the size or resolution of the print files > would be the first step.**** > > ** ** > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote:**** > > Greg,**** > > **** > > Large TIFFs =96 I use this heavily with my IMAX project In Saturn=92s Rin= gs, > do take time to start in MP. The more memory per thread you can hit them > with helps a lot as well as leaving extra memory available for OS. SSD > drives helps yet again for assets and caching.**** > > **** > > I use to have to run with MP turned off on a 24GB RAM system. I have 64GB > right now, run 6 threads with 6 GB per thread and things are good and > stable. But I have some comps with 30,000 x 15,000 pixel TIFFs in 16-bit. > Those take a while to MP render and even just open/preview.**** > > **** > > *stephen van vuuren***** > > 336.202.4777**** > > * ***** > > *http://www.insaturnsrings.com/***** > > *http://www.sv2dcp.com/***** > > *http://www.sv2studios.com/***** > > * ***** > > *A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It sho= uld > be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behind the > emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.***** > > =96*Stanley Kubrick***** > > **** > > ** ** > --047d7b873a0a1a593d04e11608fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, so I think I'm in the clear here.=A0

I ran CCleaner and dumped a ton of registry issues (missing dlls, old= junk, etc.) then I cleaned up the startup processes to only essential stuf= f.

I ran RAM tests and everything checked out alright, so = I'm pretty sure something was just intercepting the processes, or causi= ng hangs for other reasons.

I got some renders mad= e again, and then the problem started resurrecting. =A0I had to go turn off= MP, start and cancel a render, then turn MP back on for things to work.

Even so.. there'd be extra AfterFX.exe processes ru= nning that would never go away, even after quitting AE.

Finally, sat down and took all my Tifs and just saved them as compres= sed JPG files.. (nothing horrible, but enough that they weren't tifs an= d they were smaller in file-size)

This didn't help the hang-ups, but it helped my ren= der time a LITTLE when it did work..=A0

then, I we= nt through all of my video files, and was going to convert them all to a si= ngle codec (instead of all the strewn around delivery formats I received fr= om the client.)

I was placing everything in my AME queue, and I noticed= one of the video files wouldn't import.. it would hang AME.. so I open= ed it in QT and converted it out of there.

Turns o= ut it was that file that was killing everything.. it was a file that I had = originally converted to ProRes 444 from Cinec. =A0it just wouldn't load= in AME to convert, and once I converted it in QT and converted the rest of= the video clips to the same format, everything has been butter.

seriously.. thanks for that suggestion.. I would never = have expected it, considering AE never gave warning of the file having issu= e..=A0

Also.. I went from about 30 minute render t= imes for a 2 minute piece, down to 16:40 on my last test.. just from conver= ting those Tifs and video clips alone.. =A0 I didn't even resize the ti= fs, just changed them to jpg format.

anyway.. Thanks a ton to all that chimed in.. seems I&#= 39;m in good repair now. =A0my "initializing background processes"= ; message takes about 20 seconds before beginning the render, and I'm g= olden.

Cheers!

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/



On Tue, Jul= 9, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Michael Powers <MPowers@cramer.com> wr= ote:

I sometimes go to task manager and end the Adobe QT32= Server.exe process when I am having MP issues.

You=92ll need re-launch AfterFX, as it won=92t recogn= ize quicktimes. Don=92t know if this is voodoo, but it sometimes fixes slow= MP starts for me.

= =A0

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Lang
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:21 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER!=

=A0

I'm with Jayse, cutting down the size or resolution of th= e print files would be the first step.

=A0

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.co= m> wrote:

Greg,

=A0

Large TIFFs =96 I use this heavily with my IMAX proje= ct In Saturn=92s Rings, do take time to start in MP. The more memory per thread you can hit them with helps a lot as well a= s leaving extra memory available for OS. SSD drives helps yet again for ass= ets and caching.

=A0

I use to have to run with MP turned off on a 24GB RAM= system. I have 64GB right now, run 6 threads with 6 GB per thread and things are good and stable. But I have some comps= with 30,000 x 15,000 pixel TIFFs in 16-bit. Those take a while to MP rende= r and even just open/preview.

=A0

stephen van vuuren

336.20= 2.4777

=A0

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

=A0

A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music tha= n like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all tha= t comes later.

=96Stanley Kubrick

=A0

=A0


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