Return-Path: Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.56] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5135621 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:35:58 +0200 Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yFyK1l0011wfjNsA6GmkqN; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:46:44 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yGmk1l00J2yr1eL8jGmkQ5; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:46:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:46:44 +0000 (UTC) From: pixelbot@comcast.net To: After Effects Mail List Message-ID: <588226662.1041859.1373388404425.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1041858_920129587.1373388404424" X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:107.1.199.10] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.13_GA_2944) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1373388404; bh=Adr974S5qWpWQ94054cge3uJDMLOBOlkPHutaLbsOHk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=azP1913BFya7Yo7vhscBbWAeMhOHvUEeom8stfpbabOJoF6DpTYqIN0E9xdJufadH bLyzCOqSeFkuEtZCKZshChnM3iHFefYrTl/cOSoG7Op9NQMUjpKlcpTVF9G8gFh+0z oj/2XLfq3enlD4iwRBLdvGBMyyeUs9ZGw6bwnXDm5DMw/Dm+TKkHcvLVNiLKxdmgTf 8DVHc0sdJVDzqQYzypth8ly5lhr1dQL6T8ksfnwl8AS0/vc+kgX6+z6IHsAfj2ppfM 7ltLwsDrU9vEHTw1p6i4kpzK6l9Eh9+M8dKF6dQIXx/HmLoFDifxBVOcUWZvOdY7ia VFPuQjW2Yhh3A== ------=_Part_1041858_920129587.1373388404424 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a project that took forever to load - it turns out the 18 minute cust= om countdown with a long comp and hundreds of keyframes was the problem - I= pre-rendered it in a reduced comp and then my load problems went away=20 tt=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Balint" =20 To: "After Effects Mail List" =20 Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:44:08 AM=20 Subject: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER!=20 Ok, so I think I'm in the clear here.=20 I ran CCleaner and dumped a ton of registry issues (missing dlls, old junk,= etc.) then I cleaned up the startup processes to only essential stuff.=20 I ran RAM tests and everything checked out alright, so I'm pretty sure some= thing was just intercepting the processes, or causing hangs for other reaso= ns.=20 I got some renders made again, and then the problem started resurrecting. I= had to go turn off MP, start and cancel a render, then turn MP back on for= things to work.=20 Even so.. there'd be extra AfterFX.exe processes running that would never g= o away, even after quitting AE.=20 Finally, sat down and took all my Tifs and just saved them as compressed JP= G files.. (nothing horrible, but enough that they weren't tifs and they wer= e smaller in file-size)=20 This didn't help the hang-ups, but it helped my render time a LITTLE when i= t did work..=20 then, I went through all of my video files, and was going to convert them a= ll to a single codec (instead of all the strewn around delivery formats I r= eceived from the client.)=20 I was placing everything in my AME queue, and I noticed one of the video fi= les wouldn't import.. it would hang AME.. so I opened it in QT and converte= d it out of there.=20 Turns out it was that file that was killing everything.. it was a file that= I had originally converted to ProRes 444 from Cinec. it just wouldn't load= in AME to convert, and once I converted it in QT and converted the rest of= the video clips to the same format, everything has been butter.=20 seriously.. thanks for that suggestion.. I would never have expected it, co= nsidering AE never gave warning of the file having issue..=20 Also.. I went from about 30 minute render times for a 2 minute piece, down = to 16:40 on my last test.. just from converting those Tifs and video clips = alone.. I didn't even resize the tifs, just changed them to jpg format.=20 anyway.. Thanks a ton to all that chimed in.. seems I'm in good repair now.= my "initializing background processes" message takes about 20 seconds befo= re beginning the render, and I'm golden.=20 Cheers!=20 ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/=20 On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Michael Powers < MPowers@cramer.com > wrote= :=20 I sometimes go to task manager and end the Adobe QT32 Server.exe process wh= en I am having MP issues.=20 You=E2=80=99ll need re-launch AfterFX, as it won=E2=80=99t recognize quickt= imes. Don=E2=80=99t know if this is voodoo, but it sometimes fixes slow MP = starts for me.=20 From: After Effects Mail List [mailto: AE-List@media-motion.tv ] On Behalf = Of Jim Lang=20 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:21 PM=20 To: After Effects Mail List=20 Subject: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER!=20 I'm with Jayse, cutting down the size or resolution of the print files woul= d be the first step.=20 On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Stephen van Vuuren < stephen@sv2studios.com= > wrote:=20 Greg,=20 Large TIFFs =E2=80=93 I use this heavily with my IMAX project In Saturn=E2= =80=99s Rings, do take time to start in MP. The more memory per thread you = can hit them with helps a lot as well as leaving extra memory available for= OS. SSD drives helps yet again for assets and caching.=20 I use to have to run with MP turned off on a 24GB RAM system. I have 64GB r= ight now, run 6 threads with 6 GB per thread and things are good and stable= . But I have some comps with 30,000 x 15,000 pixel TIFFs in 16-bit. Those t= ake a while to MP render and even just open/preview.=20 stephen van vuuren=20 336.202.4777=20 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/=20 http://www.sv2dcp.com/=20 http://www.sv2studios.com/=20 A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like fictio= n. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80= =99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.=20 =E2=80=93 Stanley Kubrick=20 ------=_Part_1041858_920129587.1373388404424 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>I had a p= roject that took forever to load - it turns out the 18 minute custom countd= own with a long comp and hundreds of keyframes was the problem - I pre-rend= ered it in a reduced comp and then my load problems went away

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From: "Greg Balint" <delrazorael= ist@gmail.com>
To: "After Effects Mail List" <AE-List@media= -motion.tv>
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:44:08 AM
Subje= ct: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER!

=
Ok, so I think I'm in the clear here. 

=
I ran CCleaner and dumped a ton of registry issues (missing dlls, old = junk, etc.) then I cleaned up the startup processes to only essential stuff= .

I ran RAM tests and everything checked out alright, so = I'm pretty sure something was just intercepting the processes, or causing h= angs for other reasons.

I got some renders made ag= ain, and then the problem started resurrecting.  I had to go turn off = MP, start and cancel a render, then turn MP back on for things to work.

Even so.. there'd be extra AfterFX.exe processes runnin= g that would never go away, even after quitting AE.

Finally, sat down and took all my Tifs and just saved them as compressed = JPG files.. (nothing horrible, but enough that they weren't tifs and they w= ere smaller in file-size)

This didn't help the hang-ups, but it helped my render = time a LITTLE when it did work.. 

then, I wen= t through all of my video files, and was going to convert them all to a sin= gle codec (instead of all the strewn around delivery formats I received fro= m the client.)

I was placing everything in my AME queue, and I noticed= one of the video files wouldn't import.. it would hang AME.. so I opened i= t in QT and converted it out of there.

Turns out i= t was that file that was killing everything.. it was a file that I had orig= inally converted to ProRes 444 from Cinec.  it just wouldn't load in A= ME to convert, and once I converted it in QT and converted the rest of the = video clips to the same format, everything has been butter.

seriously.. thanks for that suggestion.. I would never = have expected it, considering AE never gave warning of the file having issu= e.. 

Also.. I went from about 30 minute rende= r times for a 2 minute piece, down to 16:40 on my last test.. just from con= verting those Tifs and video clips alone..   I didn't even resize the = tifs, just changed them to jpg format.

anyway.. Thanks a ton to all that chimed in.. seems I'm= in good repair now.  my "initializing background processes" message t= akes about 20 seconds before beginning the render, and I'm golden.

Cheers!

///G=
reg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/



On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Mic= hael Powers <MPowers@cramer.com> wrote:

I sometimes go to task manager and end the Adobe QT32= Server.exe process when I am having MP issues.

You=E2=80=99ll need re-launch AfterFX, as it won=E2= =80=99t recognize quicktimes. Don=E2=80=99t know if this is voodoo, but it = sometimes fixes slow MP starts for me.

&= nbsp;

From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of Jim Lang
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:21 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Initializing Background Processes. TAKING FOREVER!=

 

I'm with Jayse, cutting down the size or resolution of the pr= int files would be the first step.

 

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <stephen@sv2studios.co= m> wrote:

Greg,

 

Large TIFFs =E2=80=93 I use this heavily with my IMAX= project In Saturn=E2=80=99s Rings, do take time to start in MP. The more memory per thread you can hit them with helps a lot as well a= s leaving extra memory available for OS. SSD drives helps yet again for ass= ets and caching.

 

I use to have to run with MP turned off on a 24GB RAM= system. I have 64GB right now, run 6 threads with 6 GB per thread and things are good and stable. But I have some comps= with 30,000 x 15,000 pixel TIFFs in 16-bit. Those take a while to MP rende= r and even just open/preview.

 

stephen van vuuren

336.20= 2.4777

 

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

 

A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more li= ke music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, a= ll that comes later.

=E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick<= /p>

 

 


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