Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com ([209.85.223.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5135665 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:44:31 +0200 Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id a11so6082335iee.6 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:55:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=s6lGe58kTVEIQifkxC/mOlSnd1/loKNgrHEJC7DQXoI=; b=hn5PIqtMjPBC0TQnMYDFA0rQkf1uk8/RPrrwlNSxg0DhWWeUGrC1S7m0XMPX+CUi8Z A3zx5b+kZN2imdElPtLLCqlMbrPYRiC5awOyfitP2XdUdB67OhhjrT0HjewyRsww1GmP Ck+jL8/XJEwQ/CmX8k9V5KvbDNxmMYORbXOqsSA7P3eJm2Uf8clxgIcmoDmJDOuLZV2l jBEr5yVOrYeKC05NRkqOkmarp3LNQmny21cPlJKZ9G+wWbV67RxBXQ57LSfl2xv7OLEQ DvWV90CTLCHFbbsnnU1eDHEhVDyCAYdJt58PR2yjySX592gDEXmRvi5fFyIFDmSlYt9b uqLQ== X-Received: by 10.50.78.227 with SMTP id e3mr34201359igx.51.1373392517044; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:55:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.5.201 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:54:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 13:54:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Best Render Settings for Color Match To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0111b7341da24304e117dd71 --089e0111b7341da24304e117dd71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Teddy, I have the AVid DNXHD I think it is? I haven't tried it in a while so I will run that one and see what we have. I wasn't too much concerned about the different monitors so much. I mean, if I am able to render 1 frame still that the guy likes and then I render the full video, I would think then that he will like all of the frames. lol So, one monitor or another, if he is pleased on the monitor that he IS using, I just want to keep that kind of consistency. I'm sure half the time he is looking at the stills on his iPhone or Mac book or something. lol I use a PC. Since you mentioned the mp4, what codec are you referring to for mp4 over h264? The reason I am asking is because I've been rendering sample videos using the H264 codec outputting an mp4. You are implying I can use something else and output also to mp4. I've been through a ton of varying codecs so always looking for improvement. Thanks, Eric On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > try out the free avid dnx codec package, it includes a 4444 lossless codec > that has worked well for me in the past > > like Steve said though, unless you have a $5,000 monitor and a $3,000 > calibrator for every monitor good luck ever achieving this. > > at a minimum you'd need a quadro that supports 10bit color output and a > monitor that supports it > > and the codec is going to do all kinds of hell, not to mention codec -> > vimeo servers compression (they do their own compression server-side) it > will be nearly impossible to maintain that exact color. I do seem to think > mp4 has better color support than h264 but the temporal compression is > pretty bad, so it's a trade-off > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < > kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I'm working a project where the person has an eye for color like you >> wouldn't believe and any slight change in color after render is presenting >> a problem for me. >> >> What are the best AE render settings to maintain color from my AE CS6 >> project? I'm spending an enormous amount of time rendering so I need this >> to work right. >> >> In one shot, my greens seem to have jumped up a few notches in the >> rendered file. >> >> And just some additional info. The plan is to render out the files from >> AE, then take in to Adobe Premiere to render out an HD file suitable for >> Vimeo. >> >> Appreciate it. >> >> Eric >> >> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >> *443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com* >> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* >> > > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > -- *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347 www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com* *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* * * --089e0111b7341da24304e117dd71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Teddy,
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I have the AVid DNXHD I think it= is?=A0 I haven't tried it in a while so I will run that one and see wh= at we have.=A0 I wasn't too much concerned about the different monitors= so much.=A0 I mean, if I am able to render 1 frame still that the guy like= s and then I render the full video, I would think then that he will like al= l of the frames. lol
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So, one monitor or another, if he is pleased on the moni= tor that he IS using, I just want to keep that kind of consistency.
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I'm sure half the time he is looking at the stills on = his iPhone or Mac book or something. lol
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I use a PC.
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Since you mentioned = the mp4, what codec are you referring to for mp4 over h264?=A0 The reason I= am asking is because I've been rendering sample videos using the H264 = codec outputting an mp4.=A0 You are implying I can use something else and o= utput also to mp4.=A0 I've been through a ton of varying codecs so alwa= ys looking for improvement.
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Thanks,
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On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:4= 1 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
try out the free avid dnx = codec package, it includes a 4444 lossless codec that has worked well for m= e in the past

like Steve said though, unless you have a $5,000 monitor and a $3= ,000 calibrator for every monitor good luck ever achieving this.

at a minimum you'd need a quadro that supports 10bit color ou= tput and a monitor that supports it

and the codec is going to = do all kinds of hell, not to mention codec -> vimeo servers compression = (they do their own compression server-side) it will be nearly impossible to= maintain that exact color. I do seem to think mp4 has better color support= than h264 but the temporal compression is pretty bad, so it's a trade-= off


On Mon,= Jul 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Hello All,

I'm working a project where the person has an eye f= or color like you wouldn't believe and any slight change in color after= render is presenting a problem for me.

What are t= he best AE render settings to maintain color from my AE CS6 project? =A0I&#= 39;m spending an enormous amount of time rendering so I need this to work r= ight.

In one shot, my greens seem to have jumped up a few not= ches in the rendered file. =A0

And just some addit= ional info. =A0The plan is to render out the files from AE, then take in to= Adobe Premiere to render out an HD file suitable for Vimeo.

Appreciate it.

Eric

Eric D. Kirk |=A0Kirk Productions
The Night Vi= sitor | VFX



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Animator & Editorwww.teddygage= .com
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