Return-Path: Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.232.236] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5135678 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:48:01 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.250] (rrcs-173-196-53-166.west.biz.rr.com [173.196.53.166]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MPO008DYKLZZG90@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:58:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-09_07:2013-07-09,2013-07-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307090132 From: rik bogusz Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_09BA64D2-9A57-43AB-96B2-61345035CC13" Message-id: <139E2D98-8473-473E-B229-EE0A981BE0F2@mac.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Best Render Settings for Color Match Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:58:47 -0700 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) --Apple-Mail=_09BA64D2-9A57-43AB-96B2-61345035CC13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 well, could it just be simply the mac-pc gamma differences? On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" = wrote: > Thanks James. I'm on a PC. > =20 > I have the cinepac thing to convert to prores though. >=20 > Eric >=20 > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, James Culbertson = wrote: > I've had good luck with ProRes to x264 through Episode Pro when played = back on my own system. But the minute you send it anywhere else forget = about it. >=20 > James >=20 >=20 > On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >=20 >> try out the free avid dnx codec package, it includes a 4444 lossless = codec that has worked well for me in the past >>=20 >> like Steve said though, unless you have a $5,000 monitor and a $3,000 = calibrator for every monitor good luck ever achieving this. >>=20 >> at a minimum you'd need a quadro that supports 10bit color output and = a monitor that supports it >>=20 >> and the codec is going to do all kinds of hell, not to mention codec = -> vimeo servers compression (they do their own compression server-side) = it will be nearly impossible to maintain that exact color. I do seem to = think mp4 has better color support than h264 but the temporal = compression is pretty bad, so it's a trade-off >>=20 >>=20 >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >> Hello All, >>=20 >> I'm working a project where the person has an eye for color like you = wouldn't believe and any slight change in color after render is = presenting a problem for me. >>=20 >> What are the best AE render settings to maintain color from my AE CS6 = project? I'm spending an enormous amount of time rendering so I need = this to work right. >>=20 >> In one shot, my greens seem to have jumped up a few notches in the = rendered file. =20 >>=20 >> And just some additional info. The plan is to render out the files = from AE, then take in to Adobe Premiere to render out an HD file = suitable for Vimeo. >>=20 >> Appreciate it. >>=20 >> Eric >>=20 >> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >> The Night Visitor | VFX >> 443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions > The Night Visitor | VFX > 443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > =20 --Apple-Mail=_09BA64D2-9A57-43AB-96B2-61345035CC13 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 well, could it just be simply the mac-pc gamma differences?


On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:56 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks James.  I'm on a PC.
 
I have the cinepac thing to convert to prores though.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net> wrote:
I've had good luck with ProRes to x264 through Episode Pro when played back on my own system. But the minute you send it anywhere else forget about it.

James


On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:

try out the free avid dnx codec package, it includes a 4444 lossless codec that has worked well for me in the past

like Steve said though, unless you have a $5,000 monitor and a $3,000 calibrator for every monitor good luck ever achieving this.

at a minimum you'd need a quadro that supports 10bit color output and a monitor that supports it

and the codec is going to do all kinds of hell, not to mention codec -> vimeo servers compression (they do their own compression server-side) it will be nearly impossible to maintain that exact color. I do seem to think mp4 has better color support than h264 but the temporal compression is pretty bad, so it's a trade-off


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All,

I'm working a project where the person has an eye for color like you wouldn't believe and any slight change in color after render is presenting a problem for me.

What are the best AE render settings to maintain color from my AE CS6 project?  I'm spending an enormous amount of time rendering so I need this to work right.

In one shot, my greens seem to have jumped up a few notches in the rendered file.  

And just some additional info.  The plan is to render out the files from AE, then take in to Adobe Premiere to render out an HD file suitable for Vimeo.

Appreciate it.

Eric

Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
The Night Visitor | VFX



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