Return-Path: Received: from mail-qe0-f45.google.com ([209.85.128.45] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5135677 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 19:52:06 +0200 Received: by mail-qe0-f45.google.com with SMTP id w7so3231744qeb.18 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 11:02:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=M73U4qgMsgJDzJvJXS0w2bxRaUkRLl2kM8ryhrJwqc8=; b=xn5iqkxGU14aghwp9/M9V1jn0MsRJcLiMRPTSDpx1DMvmI/1H+4R3xJZg/9bAfNLPE A7QFyH7NqoE9xL8Pq+XlNBloa5UQQWXkqHbU1GNpfxw/QVGOE2eLI70TJXObFdAL7UUf pJms5Ba+l23+YSFEedaK9pqmUoEucAPoUjMlEwKj8LDZZDNT/eUkzdE/cCpMMv+54hWP uj5dbHWnUvZMDURf8FfkNk7u9wSuTcC2SIRWpJ2BihzklLjA6C5kR/+jVXyqhgZH+/nv +EeROasAuNrUQruVxhLOXw9rJouzJKrys99LtRHyFoWiBp4k1klhpqVNKXZYJt7HIyTc 2UxQ== X-Received: by 10.229.106.18 with SMTP id v18mr5223036qco.49.1373392973392; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 11:02:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.64.194 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:02:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:02:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Best Render Settings for Color Match To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354470a3450f6dd04e117f894 --002354470a3450f6dd04e117f894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 sorry that wasn't very clear, I know they are both h264, but what I meant was "h264" output direct from AE output module vs. higher quality "mp4" presets output through Adobe Media Encoder. I use 10bit raw uncompressed QT as a pre-compression codec, but also the lossless avid codec depending on the job On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Thanks James. I'm on a PC. > > I have the cinepac thing to convert to prores though. > > Eric > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, James Culbertson wrote: > >> I've had good luck with ProRes to x264 through Episode Pro when played >> back on my own system. But the minute you send it anywhere else forget >> about it. >> >> James >> >> >> On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: >> >> try out the free avid dnx codec package, it includes a 4444 lossless >> codec that has worked well for me in the past >> >> like Steve said though, unless you have a $5,000 monitor and a $3,000 >> calibrator for every monitor good luck ever achieving this. >> >> at a minimum you'd need a quadro that supports 10bit color output and a >> monitor that supports it >> >> and the codec is going to do all kinds of hell, not to mention codec -> >> vimeo servers compression (they do their own compression server-side) it >> will be nearly impossible to maintain that exact color. I do seem to think >> mp4 has better color support than h264 but the temporal compression is >> pretty bad, so it's a trade-off >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >> kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I'm working a project where the person has an eye for color like you >>> wouldn't believe and any slight change in color after render is presenting >>> a problem for me. >>> >>> What are the best AE render settings to maintain color from my AE CS6 >>> project? I'm spending an enormous amount of time rendering so I need this >>> to work right. >>> >>> In one shot, my greens seem to have jumped up a few notches in the >>> rendered file. >>> >>> And just some additional info. The plan is to render out the files from >>> AE, then take in to Adobe Premiere to render out an HD file suitable for >>> Vimeo. >>> >>> Appreciate it. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>> *443.206.1347 >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com* >>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >> >> >> > > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > *443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com* > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* > * * > -- Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --002354470a3450f6dd04e117f894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sorry that wasn't very clear, I know they are both h26= 4, but what I meant was "h264" output direct from AE output modul= e vs. higher quality "mp4" presets output through Adobe Media Enc= oder. I use 10bit raw uncompressed QT as a pre-compression codec, but also = the lossless avid codec depending on the job


On Tue,= Jul 9, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Thanks James.=A0 I'm on a PC.
=
=A0
I have the cinepac thing to convert to prores though.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, James Culbertson = <albion@speake= asy.net> wrote:
I've had good luck with ProRes to x264 through Episode Pro when played = back on my own system. But the minute you send it anywhere else forget abou= t it.

James


On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Teddy Gage wrote:

try out the free avid = dnx codec package, it includes a 4444 lossless codec that has worked well f= or me in the past

like Steve said though, unless you have a $5,000 monitor and a $3= ,000 calibrator for every monitor good luck ever achieving this.

at a minimum you'd need a quadro that supports 10bit color ou= tput and a monitor that supports it

and the codec is going to = do all kinds of hell, not to mention codec -> vimeo servers compression = (they do their own compression server-side) it will be nearly impossible to= maintain that exact color. I do seem to think mp4 has better color support= than h264 but the temporal compression is pretty bad, so it's a trade-= off


On Mon,= Jul 8, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Hello All,

I'm working a project where the person has an eye f= or color like you wouldn't believe and any slight change in color after= render is presenting a problem for me.

What are t= he best AE render settings to maintain color from my AE CS6 project? =A0I&#= 39;m spending an enormous amount of time rendering so I need this to work r= ight.

In one shot, my greens seem to have jumped up a few not= ches in the rendered file. =A0

And just some addit= ional info. =A0The plan is to render out the files from AE, then take in to= Adobe Premiere to render out an HD file suitable for Vimeo.

Appreciate it.

Eric

Eric D. Kirk |=A0Kirk Productions
The Night Vi= sitor | VFX



= --
Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn




--
Eric D. K= irk |=A0Kirk Productions
The Night Visitor | VFX
=A0



--
Animator & Editor
www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn
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