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[50.131.59.130]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mr3sm5009097pbb.27.2013.07.16.20.23.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:23:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Spitler Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F230B87B-9250-473F-923A-7CEF8AABB04F" Subject: Re: [AE] Inside sphere Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:23:57 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmaxpyl5Ie2VWocn2pO4EYC1nIE2mHz/Crs5OghGtk1ieDt3ltX8i3KgfsW645Wb+eyftT8 --Apple-Mail=_F230B87B-9250-473F-923A-7CEF8AABB04F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok, here is what I am finding with my experimentation. https://www.dropbox.com/s/44kf1nbga20w1ju/Distortion.jpg You can see from this image that the CC Sphere has way more distortion = than Horizon. I am not bothered about having it comp camera aware, the controls in CC = Sphere are more than adequate, I just need the wrapping style to be the = same as Horizon (CC Environment is the same as Horizon BTW). Any thoughts? Cheers. Phil Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 Website | Facebook | LinkedIn On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Rendernyc wrote: > Sorry that should be SHOULD work=20 >=20 > On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >=20 >> Well cc sphere shouldn't work. There's some expressions I think Dan = ebberts wrote years ago that lets it work with the ae camera somewhat >>=20 >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote: >>=20 >>> We can't upgrade to CC yet as we need to upgrade our SAN to work = with 10.8 (which is happening next week I think). >>>=20 >>> No Cineware for just yet. >>>=20 >>> I could do all the processing in C4D but thought AE would be more = flexible, >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks. >>>=20 >>> Phil >>>=20 >>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>=20 >>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>=20 >>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:55 PM, patrick Siemer wrote: >>>=20 >>>> you can always use Zoom, but I guess any cheat is just that, a = cheat. >>>> oh well, cineware to the rescue! >>>> -patrick >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:18 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> cineware? :) >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote: >>>>> Ahhh. bummer.. It works great other than not being able to use z = translation on the camera. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Phil >>>>>=20 >>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 1:26 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> it is affected by the cameras orientation but not position >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote: >>>>>> Hey Patrick, I just tried Horizon and it isn't affected by the = comp camera. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I'm using v1.1, can you verify it works for you and what version = you have. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:07 AM, patrick Siemer wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> A vote here for Trapcode Horizon. >>>>>>> It just works great.! As long as you have a equirectilinear map. >>>>>>> Unliike cc sphere, it works with AE camera Perfectly. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> -patrick siemer >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I have an image I want to map onto a sphere in AE.=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> CC Sphere works great but renders the outside view and I would = like to be inside.=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I seem to recall CC Environment doing something similar but = that's not installed.=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Also I think Horizon by Trapcode maybe too (which I don't have = but would purchase if needed).=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I don't want any extra shading, just pure distortion.=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Any ideas?=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Cheers.=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 | c : 415.571.3139 | Bonfirelabs.com >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> "Get Social" - http://www.facebook.com/bonfirelabs >>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to = >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --=20 >>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> danny princz >>>>>=20 >>>>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>>>=20 >>>=20 --Apple-Mail=_F230B87B-9250-473F-923A-7CEF8AABB04F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Ok, = here is what I am finding with my experimentation.


<= div>You can see from this image that the CC Sphere has way more = distortion than Horizon.

I am not bothered = about having it comp camera aware, the controls in CC Sphere are more = than adequate, I just need the wrapping style to be the same as Horizon = (CC Environment is the same as Horizon = BTW).

Any = thoughts?

Cheers.

Phil



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On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Rendernyc wrote:

Sorry that should be SHOULD = work 
Well cc sphere shouldn't work. There's some = expressions I think Dan ebberts wrote years ago that lets it work with = the ae camera somewhat

On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Phil = Spitler <phil@bonfirelabs.com> = wrote:

We can't upgrade to = CC yet as we need to upgrade our SAN to work with 10.8 (which is = happening next week I think).

No Cineware for just = yet.

I could do all the processing in C4D but = thought AE would be more = flexible,


Thanks.

Phil

signature1 Phil = Spitler  |  Creative Technologist   |  Bonfire Labs  |  t : 415.394.8200  m : = 415.571.3139

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:55 PM, patrick Siemer = wrote:

you can always use Zoom, = but I guess any cheat is just that, a cheat.
oh well, cineware to = the rescue!
-patrick

On Jul 16, 2013, = at 2:18 PM, rendernyc wrote:

cineware? :)


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Phil Spitler = <phil@bonfirelabs.com> wrote:
Ahhh. bummer.. It works great other than = not being able to use z translation on the camera.

Cheers.

Phil

Phil = Spitler  |  Creative Technologist   |  Bonfire Labs  |  t : 415.394.8200  m : 415.571.3139

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 1:26 PM, = rendernyc wrote:

it = is affected by the cameras orientation but not position


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Phil = Spitler <phil@bonfirelabs.com> wrote:
Hey Patrick, I just tried Horizon and it = isn't affected by the comp camera.

I'm using v1.1, can you verify it works for you and what = version you have.

Cheers.

Phil


Phil = Spitler  |  Creative Technologist   |  Bonfire Labs  |  t : 415.394.8200  m : 415.571.3139

Website | Facebook | LinkedIn

On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:07 AM, patrick = Siemer wrote:

A vote here for = Trapcode Horizon.
It just works great.! As long as you have a = equirectilinear map.
Unliike cc sphere, it works with AE camera Perfectly.

-patrick = siemer

On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote:

I have an image I want to map = onto a sphere in AE.

CC = Sphere works great but renders the outside view and I would like to be = inside.

I seem to recall CC Environment doing something similar but that's not = installed.

Also I think = Horizon by Trapcode maybe too (which I don't have but would purchase if = needed).

I don't want any extra shading, just pure distortion. =

Any ideas?

Cheers.

Phil



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