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[70.36.142.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id it7sm5466398pbc.25.2013.07.16.22.01.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:01:12 -0700 (PDT) From: patrick Siemer Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-593065943 Subject: Re: [AE] Inside sphere Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:00:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <55C090FE-1124-4C58-A07E-78098AF896BB@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-9-593065943 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Phil, send me your full size environment map, the top one in your = example. I will convert it to 6 square faces for the cube method i = mentioned, it won't have that cc sphere problem, and will be camera = xyz-position friendly. In the meantime, try making your cc sphere = radius super mega large. and that should take care of the major = distortions. -patrick On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: > Ok, here is what I am finding with my experimentation. >=20 > https://www.dropbox.com/s/44kf1nbga20w1ju/Distortion.jpg >=20 > You can see from this image that the CC Sphere has way more distortion = than Horizon. >=20 > I am not bothered about having it comp camera aware, the controls in = CC Sphere are more than adequate, I just need the wrapping style to be = the same as Horizon (CC Environment is the same as Horizon BTW). >=20 > Any thoughts? >=20 > Cheers. >=20 > Phil >=20 >=20 >=20 > Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >=20 > Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >=20 >> Sorry that should be SHOULD work=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Rendernyc wrote: >>=20 >>> Well cc sphere shouldn't work. There's some expressions I think Dan = ebberts wrote years ago that lets it work with the ae camera somewhat >>>=20 >>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> We can't upgrade to CC yet as we need to upgrade our SAN to work = with 10.8 (which is happening next week I think). >>>>=20 >>>> No Cineware for just yet. >>>>=20 >>>> I could do all the processing in C4D but thought AE would be more = flexible, >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks. >>>>=20 >>>> Phil >>>>=20 >>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>=20 >>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:55 PM, patrick Siemer wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> you can always use Zoom, but I guess any cheat is just that, a = cheat. >>>>> oh well, cineware to the rescue! >>>>> -patrick >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:18 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> cineware? :) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote: >>>>>> Ahhh. bummer.. It works great other than not being able to use z = translation on the camera. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 1:26 PM, rendernyc wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> it is affected by the cameras orientation but not position >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote: >>>>>>> Hey Patrick, I just tried Horizon and it isn't affected by the = comp camera. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I'm using v1.1, can you verify it works for you and what version = you have. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:07 AM, patrick Siemer wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> A vote here for Trapcode Horizon. >>>>>>>> It just works great.! As long as you have a equirectilinear = map. >>>>>>>> Unliike cc sphere, it works with AE camera Perfectly. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> -patrick siemer >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> I have an image I want to map onto a sphere in AE.=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> CC Sphere works great but renders the outside view and I would = like to be inside.=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> I seem to recall CC Environment doing something similar but = that's not installed.=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Also I think Horizon by Trapcode maybe too (which I don't have = but would purchase if needed).=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> I don't want any extra shading, just pure distortion.=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Any ideas?=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Cheers.=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t = : 415.394.8200 | c : 415.571.3139 | Bonfirelabs.com >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> "Get Social" - http://www.facebook.com/bonfirelabs >>>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to = >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> +---End of message---+ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send any message to = >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --=20 >>>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --=20 >>>>>> danny princz >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9-593065943 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hey = Phil, send me your full size environment map, the top one in your = example. I will convert it to 6 square faces for the cube method i = mentioned, it won't have that cc sphere problem, and will be camera = xyz-position friendly.  In the meantime, try making your cc sphere = radius super mega large. and that should take care of the major = distortions.

-patrick
On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:23 = PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

Ok, here is what I am finding = with my experimentation.


<= div>You can see from this image that the CC Sphere has way more = distortion than Horizon.

I am not bothered = about having it comp camera aware, the controls in CC Sphere are more = than adequate, I just need the wrapping style to be the same as Horizon = (CC Environment is the same as Horizon = BTW).

Any = thoughts?

Cheers.

Phil



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On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Rendernyc wrote:

Sorry that should be SHOULD = work 
Well cc sphere shouldn't work. There's some = expressions I think Dan ebberts wrote years ago that lets it work with = the ae camera somewhat

On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Phil = Spitler <phil@bonfirelabs.com> = wrote:

We can't upgrade to = CC yet as we need to upgrade our SAN to work with 10.8 (which is = happening next week I think).

No Cineware for just = yet.

I could do all the processing in C4D but = thought AE would be more = flexible,


Thanks.

Phil

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:55 PM, patrick Siemer = wrote:

you can always use Zoom, = but I guess any cheat is just that, a cheat.
oh well, cineware to = the rescue!
-patrick

On Jul 16, 2013, = at 2:18 PM, rendernyc wrote:

cineware? :)


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Phil Spitler = <phil@bonfirelabs.com> wrote:
Ahhh. bummer.. It works great other than = not being able to use z translation on the camera.

Cheers.

Phil

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 1:26 PM, = rendernyc wrote:

it = is affected by the cameras orientation but not position


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Phil = Spitler <phil@bonfirelabs.com> wrote:
Hey Patrick, I just tried Horizon and it = isn't affected by the comp camera.

I'm using v1.1, can you verify it works for you and what = version you have.

Cheers.

Phil


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On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:07 AM, patrick = Siemer wrote:

A vote here for = Trapcode Horizon.
It just works great.! As long as you have a = equirectilinear map.
Unliike cc sphere, it works with AE camera Perfectly.

-patrick = siemer

On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Phil Spitler = wrote:

I have an image I want to map = onto a sphere in AE.

CC = Sphere works great but renders the outside view and I would like to be = inside.

I seem to recall CC Environment doing something similar but that's not = installed.

Also I think = Horizon by Trapcode maybe too (which I don't have but would purchase if = needed).

I don't want any extra shading, just pure distortion. =

Any ideas?

Cheers.

Phil



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