Return-Path: Received: from mail-vb0-f49.google.com ([209.85.212.49] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5145813 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 01:12:28 +0200 Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 12so1854010vbf.36 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:23:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=mjb4l1EHNI+NK+BPCWpqCf6USXEmOCdpNqGzcAKj39g=; b=i+hdLud+6yRShm/bzbDYfCji8K10yHhvjFzLSxQAz+S54XapHKtQybEKtiLnA1M3M+ q7hfElsMAlf8TFPJTWHoYtSdrUt2oTbgkk0BuHaePSBbcLMUPDzIFE60aCFywbTk2d99 IxuhcaLd0CxydE6YXLyYtGtVeTX6iO5YiqKm+tkNu/5eMwDgn755oXrO3N2TU+Z3ZDzs bRr6E3EWky4rteiofLrI+2C+DXJMEg0sFHTZ95DRkKqedKIhYXL29gz9moV3zMFyk79K 127UfXXo1t/hwC/sTH6obxv34vqsU/8RG7b/zVM56VFBNIoiRTfIgrdIggZgElZ/5hsE 7X7w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.201.69 with SMTP id jy5mr2966837vec.29.1374103410473; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.4.37 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.4.37 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:23:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 01:23:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Mocha AE From: Robert Kjettrup To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6bb10aa93ed04e1bd6107 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn8Jli+JZ1pZhxRriC1Kr7BWEtNtM5mU/66d1IC/mXhjTm6nwFyR4ojEk6iZ6Jt1rV3zO/u --047d7bd6bb10aa93ed04e1bd6107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well i guess you had some good thoughts about doing the v1 interface the way that you did, and I certainly liked it. Although I must admit that it is a some time since I used it last, it was bundled uptil ae cs5? I have extensivly used the new v2 interface (that still had the big align surface button :-)) and I still hunt around for the small icons for the functions that was so much more easy to find in v1, I guess I will get used to it :-D Too bad that people in general are so against learning new interfaces that could be so much better than the 'standard', AE certainly could also need some update UI feedback. I have always loved the way you handle mask transforms in Mocha, veeery intuitive, and the new transformbox is just bettering it even more. I really hope that AE 'steals' your way to handle this and you dont have some dumb patent on this :-) - Robert Den 17/07/2013 15.48 skrev "Ross Shain" : > Thanks Robert. > > I must admit, your comment is the first time I have heard anyone miss the > old interface! Just a note that any AE user that wants provide mocha AE > feedback can always contact us directly to log requests can use this form: > http://www.imagineersystems.com/contact_form > > We appreciate user feedback. As for interface, after mocha AE CS4 shipped, > there was overwhelming request for a simplified, AE style viewer icons, > etc. > Once you get used to it, hopefully you will enjoy. > > Lastly, if you are now running mocha AE CC, hopefully you are finding some > of the new features: transform tool, layer grouping, spline and fill > colors, keyframe dope sheet and more. > > Cheers, > Ross > > > Sent from my iPadform > > On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:57 AM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > > Hi Ross > > I too miss the big easy to find 'align surface' button from the older > version of Mocha AE that was bundled with CS6 and below, it took me a while > too to find the new location of it in the new CC bundled version. > It has properly been this way for some time in the regular mocha version > (v3 has been out a long time now?) but is there a good reason to hide this > much used button? Was too many users mistakenly clicking it when they > shouldn't? Or did it just take too much ui space? (I still better liked the > interface in v1 than many of the 'improvements' you have done later to look > more like 'normal' applications. Too many dumb small icons. Although I have > to say there also have been many good improvements feature wise :-D) > ...and can we have the align surface button back in the future? ...as a > text button and not a small icon button :-) > > - Robert > Den 17/07/2013 05.10 skrev "Ross Shain" : > >> Under the layer list in the upper left part of interface. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:32 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" < >> kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I hope this isn't too far off topic. I have Mocha AE 3.x and for the >> life of me, i can't find the Align Surface switch. >> >> Can anyone describe where it is? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Eric >> >> --047d7bd6bb10aa93ed04e1bd6107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well i guess you had some good thoughts about doing the v1 i= nterface the way that you did, and I certainly liked it. Although I must ad= mit that it is a some time since I used it last, it was bundled uptil ae cs= 5? I have extensivly used the new v2 interface (that still had the big alig= n surface button :-)) and I still hunt around for the small icons for the f= unctions that was so much more easy to find in v1, I guess I will get used = to it :-D

Too bad that people in general are so against learning new i= nterfaces that could be so much better than the 'standard', AE cert= ainly could also need some update UI feedback.

I have always loved the way you handle mask transforms in Mo= cha, veeery intuitive, and the new transformbox is just bettering it even m= ore. I really hope that AE 'steals' your way to handle this and you= dont have some dumb patent on this :-)

- Robert

Den 17/07/2013 15.48 skrev "Ross Shain"= ; <rosss@imagineersystems.= com>:
Thanks Robert.

I must admit= , your comment is the first time I have heard anyone miss the old interface= ! Just a note that any AE user that wants provide mocha AE feedback can alw= ays contact us directly to log requests can use this form:=A0http://www.imagineersy= stems.com/contact_form
We appreciate user feedback. As for interface, after mocha AE CS= 4 shipped, there was overwhelming request for a simplified, AE style viewer= icons, etc.=A0
Onc= e you get used to it, hopefully you will enjoy.

=
Las= tly, if you are now running mocha AE CC, hopefully you are finding some of = the new features: transform tool, layer grouping, spline and fill colors, k= eyframe dope sheet and more.
Cheers,
Ross
=A0
Sent from my iPadform=A0

On Jul 17,= 2013, at 5:57 AM, Robert Kjettrup <robert@stvmayday.dk> wrote:

Hi Ross

I too miss the big easy to find 'align surface' butt= on from the older version of Mocha AE that was bundled with CS6 and below, = it took me a while too to find the new location of it in the new CC bundled= version.
It has properly been this way for some time in the regular mocha version (v= 3 has been out a long time now?) but is there a good reason to hide this mu= ch used button? Was too many users mistakenly clicking it when they shouldn= 't? Or did it just take too much ui space? (I still better liked the in= terface in v1 than many of the 'improvements' you have done later t= o look more like 'normal' applications. Too many dumb small icons. = Although I have to say there also have been many good improvements feature = wise :-D)
...and can we have the align surface button back in the future? ...as a tex= t button and not a small icon button :-)

- Robert

Den 17/07/2013 05.10 skrev "Ross Shain"= ; <rosss= @imagineersystems.com>:
Under the layer list in the upper left part of inter= face.=A0

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:32 = PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:

I hope this isn'= ;t too far off topic.=A0 I have Mocha AE 3.x and for the life of me, i can&= #39;t find the Align Surface switch.

Can anyone describe where it is?

Thanks.

Eric

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