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From: Louai Abu-Osba <me@louai.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:45:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: [AE] lossless codec in a container roundup
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Oh Brendan, I'm so happy you're on this that I'm going to skip all the way =
home.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Brendan Bolles <brendan@fnordware.com> wro=
te:
> On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote:
>
>> It=92s not a Mac vs. PC. It=92s the utter lack of cross-platform profess=
ional codec that all companies share responsibility for.
>
>
> OK, I'm trying to keep my mouth shut about an unfinished, un-annouced thi=
ng, but I can't do it.
>
> I've recently made open source plug-ins for the WebM and Ogg Theora forma=
ts.  You can read about and download them here:
>
> http://forums.adobe.com/message/5465653
> http://forums.adobe.com/message/5475472
>
>
> These are basically open source movie formats to compete with H.264 in th=
e HTML5 standard.
>
> But upon looking into Ogg, I saw that it supports a series of other codec=
s:
>
> http://www.xiph.org/
>
>
> One very interesting codec is Dirac, which was made by the BBC.  It suppo=
rts lossy and lossless compression, 16-bit even.  It uses wavelets like JPE=
G 2000, so it also appears to do the auto-proxy thing you can do with JPEG =
2000.
>
> I plan to add some other codecs as well, such as PNG and OpenEXR, so you'=
ll be able to render linear float to a movie format.
>
> But the key is that this is an open movie format and I'm releasing the pl=
ug-ins as open source.  You can already see the code for the WebM and Theor=
a plug-ins on GitHub.  So you will not have the Microcosm problem, or even =
the problem with QuickTime being a closed format.  It will be completely op=
en for people to port to any platform.
>
>
> Now, I still have a lot of work to do on this project!  But for now you c=
an try out the Theora and WebM plug-ins and give me feedback (you'll have t=
o render your AE project through Media Encoder).
>
> BTW, WebM's new codec, VP9, should be adding some features that may be us=
eful to us, like alpha channel support and maybe even lossless/10-bit.
>
> It has always bothered me that people were storing their pixels in propri=
etary formats.  I've made plug-ins for a variety of still image formats, an=
d now I'm going after movies.  Stay tuned.
>
>
> Brendan
>
>
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