Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.202] (HELO homiemail-a54.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5147516 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:28:50 +0200 Received: from homiemail-a54.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a54.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DFA4012241C for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:39:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=louai.org; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=louai.org; b=W SSk9KBBYd5gyfYXzqp1WP19IDKhunq5bGzraOE/2GsgTmlXj/qzyKTs5aA3drFux mRipytmpaO5npz+tzqHxYZOABlm4YAvxbkqnfKH5s/dR3AZ8Rx8nlj/2eHUfJQl7 I1O8GeGB5Meoq0+YXduTTfl9JUnMDQ0XeOJuQSTrZs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=louai.org; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=louai.org; bh=rndPs3M 4Q8M7H4OT1/wiFNdIylg=; b=nql9iGM/34q7OBQkJn0imbWaKLfJmsUngqyJ022 74GF4pxmpJIOhJUXlXea/3Vjbwy50L1Tm8tSrxnzhpv/zOuNAWCJ24ph9eDbzLwk ArkHGmtz4VMR1FZy+FCnj4yHJIAXC8i0KUDrpY9qtK/NfqaeOaibTzNOWIsVMpww rofM= Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: me@louai.org) by homiemail-a54.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE8EA4012241B for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v20so3424248lbc.31 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:39:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7c1S9OYJHZAtZupXdyAypLzhkaF5y1iqBth6QsnK3ec=; b=dgme5s6r7N4HwmPtjS60e9/tfelgt1tEe8jIahJOrZcT5Rs7azu4oTmTKb/EVVi9LH +Ue8F9KVDvhxAhUrq3Nrx7zZESBT7s/rW7F9bJdM1SrUgffcwTG1yMZ/3ZKi8bCc9PZr v3/WAgK5B1oWB6+PcHCBZwsf7Kt5YNgbHzboMle3tQHg5CTNWeguLDite9R88xg3eZ8F AJEVmxDLhzBQQ9Un8b3VVNPBlVQURt8Y+KgAhZOg6PeRuYwT1qb10s0pFW42nTzLroZ7 C+CLdeFpI7SvpGg5g42e7BPyu5QTneED5hlYTR5bKxP+3zbmLkEWscR7NDK99nAhg2uT u3xg== X-Received: by 10.152.121.106 with SMTP id lj10mr7454785lab.27.1374233992825; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:39:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.164.104 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:39:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Louai Abu-Osba Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:39:22 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] lossless codec in a container roundup To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Brendan Bolles wro= te: > You just blew my mind. And made my accountant swoon. > > Would you guys really do that? Honestly, it would really help me do this= . If I had been paid to work on these recent WebM and Theora plug-ins, I w= ould have billed the client about $10k so far, and I'm just getting started= . > ARE YOU KIDDING?! Offcourse! The need for a lossless/lossy, high performance, multi-bit depth, resolution independent, alpha supporting, cross platform codec with host plugins is enormous. All those in favor, say Aye! What you outlined below is exactly what makes crowdfunding successful. Plus, you have lots of credibility, which is important when asking for a large sum. I'm glad you're looking at existing open source projects, as any open source advocate will tell you not to start your own project but to join someone elses whenever possible. If you want to make this happen I'd be happy to help. I know a few open source hackers that know many of people behind open source content creation tools, like the Ogg guys and Blender. > I'm not one of those guys that thinks all software must be open source, b= ut I do believe strongly that the formats you use to store and archive your= work should be open. Free as in beer to download, and free as in speech s= o you can give the code to a programmer years from now and they can find a = way to read your 2013 movie file on whatever computing architecture is used= on the latest self-driving flying iCar. > > Plus, there is some pretty amazing open source code out there just waitin= g to be wired up to our favorite Adobe programs. I had not even heard of W= ebM or Ogg Theora or Dirac until a few weeks ago, but I immediately knew th= ey could be great cross-platform replacements for QuickTime, maybe even Pro= Res. An added bonus: you'd be able to kiss frustrating QuickTime gamma iss= ues goodbye. > > > Brendan > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to