Return-Path: Received: from spike.lmi.net ([66.117.140.17] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5153177 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:25:10 +0200 Received: from [10.0.1.71] (c-71-198-249-239.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [71.198.249.239]) by spike.lmi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB49515400D for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [AE] lossless codec in a container roundup From: Brendan Bolles In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:36:23 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3C018A18-0E69-41EA-9270-AE226BD5B88F@fnordware.com> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:20 AM, Byron Nash wrote: > Great line of thought Brendan and Stephen. Open, Professional, and = extensible should be the aims. I'll certainly do everything in my power = to help push it into adoption. Will you have to work with the major = vendors to get compatibility out of the gate or is what you are = proposing already compatible? These files will be totally legit MXF files, but not compatible with = probably any existing MXF reader because they will use different codecs. = Since MXF itself doesn't set any codec standards, many programs that = use MXF are already not compatible with each other even though they're = using the same file format. This new file format aims to not have that = problem. But as an MXF, any other thing that someone wants to do with it, like = parse out metadata, should work just like with a regular MXF. We will = have an easy-to-use library available for people to add support for this = format in their programs, but someone already reading MXF could probably = just add the open codecs to their reader and it would work. My first priority will be to make a Premiere/Media Encoder plug-in, then = probably an After Effects plug-in. That will let people who don't need = to go outside those programs to start testing it in production. These = plug-ins will be open source, so they will serve as examples to other = vendors for how to add support to their programs. Hopefully they will = do it themselves with your encouragement. Or if there is demand and = resources available, more open source plug-ins could be made. Since Apple will no doubt drag their feet, we'll probably have to make a = QuickTime component at some point (different from a QuickTime codec). Brendan