Return-Path: Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com ([17.158.161.6] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5155448 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 19:14:34 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (99-152-153-100.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.153.100]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.04(7.0.4.27.3) 64bit (built Mar 7 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0MQI00LYY5R13230@nk11p00mm-asmtp007.mac.com> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:25:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-25_06:2013-07-25,2013-07-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1307250095 From: Jim Curtis MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5599AE8A-DDC9-42C2-9B5F-55803B353887" Subject: Re: [AE] OT: Kona 3 RGB Colorspace Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 12:25:49 -0500 In-reply-to: To: After Effects Mail List References: Message-id: <9C1690E8-6B35-4E61-B717-96B14DFA340D@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_5599AE8A-DDC9-42C2-9B5F-55803B353887 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have FCP and a Kona LHi, and I don't see YUV-10 as an option in the = Capture tool. All my presets are variations on RGB. I'm fairly certain = that Kona only captures RGB, and not 16-235. =20 And IINM, 16-235 suggests an 8-bit color space, whereas a 10-bit would = be 0-32768 (or some other much larger range than 0-255), correct? In any event, I've never seen a ProRes file from tape or telecine via = Kona that was in 16-235. I've seen it through Avid hardware, though. If you have a broadcast monitor, I don't know if it even matters that = much. I'm getting more footage in that's RAW or linear, which often = doesn't look good or right without color correction. As long as you can = make it look nice with color correction, that's what's important. =20 Putting a Levels plug on your footage with the Input Black set to 16, = and the Input White set to 235 will adjust it to 0-235 (in an 8-bit = project). On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > A client has sent me a file and they are not colorspace savvy. It=E2=80=99= s a ProRes 422 HQ file that was captured off D5 tape into Final Cut as = =E2=80=9CYUV-10=E2=80=9D via Kona 3 card SDI. >=20 > ProRes is not tagged and having difficult figuring out best colorspace = for it. Rec709 and sRGB looked a little washed out. Rec709 (16-235) = looks better in midtones but gamma a bit dark. P3 looks richer but a = little darker still. > =20 > File is pillarboxed and pillarboxes are RGB 0,0,0. > =20 > Can=E2=80=99t find much help via google =E2=80=93 any ideas? > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > =20 > A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than like = fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, = what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =E2=80=93Stanley Kubrick > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On = Behalf Of Peter Mock > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:33 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Does trapcode creative Suite work on Adobe After = Effects CC ? > =20 > Thank you all that was a great help > Peter > =20 > On 24 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Todd Kopriva wrote: >=20 >=20 > = https://support.redgiant.com/entries/21756405-Adobe-After-Effects-CC-suppo= rt-for-Particular >=20 > On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Peter Mock wrote: > Does trapcode creative Suite work on Adobe After Effects CC ? > Thank you > Peter >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -------------------------------- > Todd Kopriva > 1510 E Alder St > Seattle, WA 98122 > (206)437-2296 > -------------------------------- > "Mobility is more important than motion." > - Gy=C3=B6rgy Seb=C5=91k > =20 --Apple-Mail=_5599AE8A-DDC9-42C2-9B5F-55803B353887 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I have FCP and a Kona LHi, and I don't see = YUV-10 as an option in the Capture tool.  All my presets are = variations on RGB.  I'm fairly certain that Kona only captures RGB, = and not 16-235.  

And IINM, 16-235 = suggests an 8-bit color space, whereas a 10-bit would be 0-32768 (or = some other much larger range than 0-255), = correct?

In any event, I've never seen a ProRes = file from tape or telecine via Kona that was in 16-235.  I've seen = it through Avid hardware, though.

If you have a = broadcast monitor, I don't know if it even matters that much.  I'm = getting more footage in that's RAW or linear, which often doesn't look = good or right without color correction.  As long as you can make it = look nice with color correction, that's what's important. =  

Putting a Levels plug on your footage = with the Input Black set to 16, and the Input White set to 235 will = adjust it to 0-235 (in an 8-bit = project).



On Jul 25, = 2013, at 12:03 PM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote:

A = client has sent me a file and they are not colorspace savvy. It=E2=80=99s = a ProRes 422 HQ file that was captured off D5 tape into Final Cut as = =E2=80=9CYUV-10=E2=80=9D via Kona 3 card = SDI.

ProRes = is not tagged and having difficult figuring out best colorspace for it. = Rec709 and sRGB looked a little washed out. Rec709 (16-235) looks better = in midtones but gamma a bit dark. P3 looks richer but a little darker = still.
File = is pillarboxed and pillarboxes are RGB = 0,0,0.
stephen van vuuren
 
Does trapcode creative Suite = work on Adobe After Effects CC ?
Thank = you
Peter


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Todd Kopriva
1510 E Alder St
Seattle, WA = 98122
(206)437-2296
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"Mobility = is more important than motion."
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