Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com ([209.85.212.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5156447 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:55:30 +0200 Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id m6so979039wiv.2 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:06:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dt+hhINax7G8zu1FLFKglp4k6BBiXgQoTaeJ8aH7tJw=; b=rD7VbDNmby1YfML+LgjqauvqxJU15gLKzfXztnCmobmxQl7efTd5ycaTnoBlWTV9xr piInAn9t7XQWnt4tkijU+Kpt5DXNUDKXyFzfNVPUNCNAJG1RhfDweHrsEULExmEyK1A6 wA2+xG/CHLzHxYqlV1tjsJ/MDmo4R71y4WxLX/c/rqEhwKEZPr1cGRpuWshaMKN3qC0Z APjAI694w/eM6rNTBCM5UwjPgBz87ru3+2dXL71IluDeYEJ811Rtsqq9TT+1Wj3h+Ra2 PkmWiuryB9ho6mOXtni0MBww25TlpIF6bwlwBuUgHipaNzV1yEI+o1udf96gQZis2iH9 wZZA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.20.116 with SMTP id m20mr5995001wie.46.1374851210534; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.11.102 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 08:06:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:06:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Batch compression options From: rendernyc To: After Effects Mail List , Curtis Nichols Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f2e3105e5d204e26b7e87 --bcaec53f2e3105e5d204e26b7e87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ive done these as well for one off events in huge theaters for a CEO in front of industry and press etc etc... IIRC we used episode pro to handle the conversions and the company doing the show gave use ae templates for the splits and then presets for the wmv you deliver the split animations and watchout plays them back in sync i believe we wound up using bootcamp and running windows on one of the macpros for conversion On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Curtis Nichols wrote: > It's strange to me that you're having to split the animations for the > projectors. Isn't that what Watchout does? Maps out a single element across > multiple outputs? > > > Curtis Nichols > Senior Editor > PCS Production Co. > Irving, Tx. > ------------------ > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Chris Zwar > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:33 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] Batch compression options > > Thanks everyone for your suggestions. For the record here's a bit more > info- > > -The many compressions are projector splits for a watchout job. I've just > checked and we have about 70 individual animations that will be split > between either 7 or 11 projectors each. So a revised and more accurate > total is that we'll be compressing between 500 and 750 clips. > > -Delivering MP4s is not an option. This is an important, one-off launch > event with an international cast. People fly in from all over the world, > do their thing once and that's it. The watchout crew won't risk any > hiccups or tech problems. They've given us very precise compression specs > and that's what we'll stick to. Even though watchout can probably handle > all sorts of stuff, for this event that's been worked on for months we just > do what we're told - no-one will risk making a global CEO looking like a > muppet in front of a blank or frozen screen. > > -I've had a quick look at FFMPEG but I can't see if it can encode to > WMV-9's pro codec (ie. VC1), which is what we compress to. I'm happy to > experiment with FFMPEG but a quick google search seems to indicate that it > can only decode VC1, not encode to it. Is this old news? Is it something > we can work around with flip4mac, or do we have to use specific encoder > libraries for ffmpeg? > > -Now that I've had a chance to work on the project for a bit I can see > that although there are loads of compressions, it's not as painful as I > first thought. Actually it's doing the projector splits which is more > tedious. AE makes this quite painless with the ability to name outputs > based on project name and comp name, so now I have set up an output > template it's all pretty smooth. > > So although there are still lots of clips to compress, it's actually not > as painful as I thought and it's actually render output options in AE which > are doing a lot of the work. > > Cheers, > > > -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Oakley [mailto:steveo@practicali.com] > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 01:56 PM > To: 'After Effects Mail List' > Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Batch compression options > > deliver MP4's which AME can do. MP4's will work native on windoze back to > XP. AME can use a watch folder which would make this simple. otherwise > adobe apps don't see F4M as a codec. don't say how many times its been FR'd. > > the alternative may in fact be to buy an older PC and set that up > > S > > On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:30 PM, "Chris Zwar" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > This is a bit OT, but compression isn't normally my thing. > > > > I'm working on a project where we will be supplying roughly 1000 > individual clips as wmvs. We're all working on Macs with no Windows > machines around, and rendering from After Effects to image sequences. > > > > Just wondering what the best tool is to convert / compress the image > sequences to wmvs. The main thing we want is one where we can save the > render queue and selectively re-queue items as they are revised. I guess > in my mind I think of the After Effects render queue, where you can tick > and un-tick items, or re-queue items to render again and so on. The thing > is that these clips will be tweaked, rendered, revised, re-rendered and so > on. So it's not just a matter of doing a batch conversion once, it's a > matter of selectively revising and re-delivering over a period of weeks. > We will always be rendering the image sequences to the same "final" folder, > so the source files won't be moving. > > > > We will purchase flip-4-mac licences to render to wmvs, but not really > sure about what the options are to work from image sequences and being able > to save a batch compression queue. We have compressor somewhere, and can > easily download MPEG streamclip. I haven't really played around with the > Adobe Media Encoder to know what it's capable of. Not sure if I can > convince them to spring for something like Squeeze, but if it's really > awesome then maybe I can. > > > > It will be tedious to set up 1000 compressions so I really only want to > do it once... any suggestions are welcome. > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > > > +---End of message---+ > > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > -- danny princz vimeo.com/rendernyc --bcaec53f2e3105e5d204e26b7e87 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ive done these as well for one off events in huge theaters= for a CEO in front of industry and press etc etc...=A0
IIRC we used ep= isode pro to handle the conversions and the company doing the show gave use= ae templates for the splits and then presets for the wmv

you deliver the split animations and watchout pla= ys them back in sync

i believe we wound up using bootcam= p and running windows on one of the macpros for conversion




On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Curtis Nichols <curtisnpcs@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It's strange to me that you'= ;re having to split the animations for the projectors. Isn't that what = Watchout does? Maps out a single element across multiple outputs?

=A0
Curtis Nichols
Senior Edi= tor
PCS Production Co.
Irving, Tx.
------------------
From: Chris Zwar <chris@chriszwar.com>
To: After Effects Mail List= <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:33 PM

Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Batch compression options

Thanks everyone for your = suggestions.=A0 For the record here's a bit more info-

-The many compressions are projector splits for a watchout job.=A0 I= 9;ve just checked and we have about 70 individual animations that will be s= plit between either 7 or 11 projectors each.=A0 So a revised and more accur= ate total is that we'll be compressing between 500 and 750 clips.

-Delivering MP4s is not an option.=A0 This is an important, one-off lau= nch event with an international cast.=A0 People fly in from all over the wo= rld, do their thing once and that's it.=A0 The watchout crew won't = risk any hiccups or tech problems.=A0 They've given us very precise com= pression specs and that's what we'll stick to.=A0 Even though watch= out can probably handle all sorts of stuff, for this event that's been worked on for months we just do what we're = told - no-one will risk making a global CEO looking like a muppet in front = of a blank or frozen screen.

-I've had a quick look at FFMPEG bu= t I can't see if it can encode to WMV-9's pro codec (ie. VC1), whic= h is what we compress to.=A0 I'm happy to experiment with FFMPEG but a = quick google search seems to indicate that it can only decode VC1, not enco= de to it.=A0 Is this old news?=A0 Is it something we can work around with f= lip4mac, or do we have to use specific encoder libraries for ffmpeg?

-Now that I've had a chance to work on the project for a bit I can = see that although there are loads of compressions, it's not as painful = as I first thought.=A0 Actually it's doing the projector splits which i= s more tedious.=A0 AE makes this quite painless with the ability to name ou= tputs based on project name and comp name, so now I have set up an output t= emplate it's all pretty smooth.

So although there are still lots of clips to compres= s, it's actually not as painful as I thought and it's actually rend= er output options in AE which are doing a lot of the work.

Cheers,

-Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Oakley [mailto:= steveo@practical= i.com]
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 01:56 PM
To: 'After Effect= s Mail List'
Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Batch compression options

deliver MP4's w= hich AME can do. MP4's will work native on windoze back to XP. AME can = use a watch folder which would make this simple. otherwise adobe apps don&#= 39;t see F4M as a codec. don't say how many times its been FR'd.
the alternative may in fact be to buy an older PC and set that up
S

On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:30 PM, "Chris Zwar" <chris@chriszwar.com&g= t; wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is a bit OT, but compression isn't no= rmally my thing.
>
> I'm working on a project where we will= be supplying roughly 1000 individual clips as wmvs.=A0 We're all worki= ng on Macs with no Windows machines around, and rendering from After Effect= s to image sequences.
>
> Just wondering what the best tool is to convert / compress the= image sequences to wmvs.=A0 The main thing we want is one where we can sav= e the render queue and selectively re-queue items as they are revised.=A0 I= guess in my mind I think of the After Effects render queue, where you can = tick and un-tick items, or re-queue items to render again and so on.=A0 The= thing is that these clips will be tweaked, rendered, revised, re-rendered = and so on.=A0 So it's not just a matter of doing a batch conversion onc= e, it's a matter of selectively revising and re-delivering over a period of weeks.=A0 We will always be rendering the i= mage sequences to the same "final" folder, so the source files wo= n't be moving.
>
> We will purchase flip-4-mac licences to = render to wmvs, but not really sure about what the options are to work from= image sequences and being able to save a batch compression queue.=A0 We ha= ve compressor somewhere, and can easily download MPEG streamclip.=A0 I have= n't really played around with the Adobe Media Encoder to know what it&#= 39;s capable of.=A0 Not sure if I can convince them to spring for something= like Squeeze, but if it's really awesome then maybe I can.
>
> It will be tedious to set up 1000 compressions so I really onl= y want to do it once... any suggestions are welcome.
>
> Cheers= ,
>
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
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