Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob09.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5157051 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 04:14:13 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.208]) by atl4mhob09.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6R2PXiw001884 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 22:25:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 20808 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 2013 02:25:33 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 60.225.197.206 X-Authenticated-UID: chris@chriszwar.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (chris@chriszwar.com@60.225.197.206) by 0 with ESMTPA; 27 Jul 2013 02:25:32 -0000 From: Chris Zwar Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9EECCB35-AD3A-455C-A6A1-FFC292789CCC" Message-Id: <9711EEC0-C4BE-4480-8B2A-194F8EA56092@chriszwar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Batch compression options Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:25:29 +1000 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" , Curtis Nichols In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) --Apple-Mail=_9EECCB35-AD3A-455C-A6A1-FFC292789CCC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On 27/07/2013, at 12:57 AM, Curtis Nichols = wrote: > It's strange to me that you're having to split the animations for the = projectors. Isn't that what Watchout does? Maps out a single element = across multiple outputs? Watchout controls the playback of sequences and keeps all the projectors = in sync, but the clips are split first. Typically these sorts of things begin with a staging company designing = the set and working out the physical size of the screen (or multiple = screens). The physical size is then used to determine how many = projectors are needed and where they will be placed. Projectors are run = at their native resolution, which varies between models. 1920x1080 is = increasingly common, but there are still lots of 4x3 projectors that run = at 1400 x 1050, and other sizes too. Allowing for overlap, the staging = company will come up with an overall screen size in pixels, and details = for how that canvas is to be split into individual streams for each = projector (always the projector's native resolution). Areas of the = screen can be masked as well to suit the stage design, so some of the = numbers you get can be unusual. The canvas I'm working on for this job = is 11,431 x 1080 and this gets split between 7 projectors, each 1920 x = 1080. There are another 4 projectors for the floor area, which is = animated separately. I'm not a watchout expert, but I think each stream is played by an = individual computer. At least they used to be, maybe faster computers = and SSDs have changed things in recent times, but I'd be surprised if = they risked playing more than one stream from any computer. So for this = project, which has 11 projectors in total, I think there will be 11 = individual computers, each playing an individual stream to each = projector, sync'd to a master computer (server) where the watchout = programming is controlled. It's kinda like powerpoint on steroids. On smaller sized screens, I have worked on projects where there was only = one large video file and the playback from a single computer was split = between multiple projectors by a spyder. But with this type of scenario = you are limited to movie sizes that the computer can reliably playback. = With SSDs and faster machines this can be pretty big, but it wasn't that = long ago that anything larger than HD was risky. -Chris --Apple-Mail=_9EECCB35-AD3A-455C-A6A1-FFC292789CCC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 curtisnpcs@sbcglobal.net> = wrote:

It's strange = to me that you're having to split the animations for the projectors. = Isn't that what Watchout does? Maps out a single element across multiple = outputs?

Watchout controls the = playback of sequences and keeps all the projectors in sync, but the = clips are split first.

Typically these sorts of = things begin with a staging company designing the set and working out = the physical size of the screen (or multiple screens). The = physical size is then used to determine how many projectors are needed = and where they will be placed. Projectors are run at their native = resolution, which varies between models. 1920x1080 is increasingly = common, but there are still lots of 4x3 projectors that run at 1400 x = 1050, and other sizes too. Allowing for overlap, the staging = company will come up with an overall screen size in pixels, and details = for how that canvas is to be split into individual streams for each = projector (always the projector's native resolution). Areas of the = screen can be masked as well to suit the stage design, so some of the = numbers you get can be unusual. The canvas I'm working on for this = job is 11,431 x 1080 and this gets split between 7 projectors, each 1920 = x 1080. There are another 4 projectors for the floor area, = which is animated separately.

I'm not a = watchout expert, but I think each stream is played by an individual = computer. At least they used to be, maybe faster computers and = SSDs have changed things in recent times, but I'd be surprised if they = risked playing more than one stream from any computer. So for this = project, which has 11 projectors in total, I think there will be 11 = individual computers, each playing an individual stream to each = projector, sync'd to a master computer (server) where the watchout = programming is controlled. It's kinda like powerpoint on = steroids.

On smaller sized screens, I have = worked on projects where there was only one large video file and the = playback from a single computer was split between multiple projectors by = a spyder. But with this type of scenario you are limited to movie = sizes that the computer can reliably playback. With SSDs and = faster machines this can be pretty big, but it wasn't that long ago that = anything larger than HD was = risky.

-Chris

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