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From: "Stephen van Vuuren" <stephen@sv2studios.com>
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Subject: RE: [AE] Avid to AE workflow HELP!
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:08 -0400
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This product can sometimes help and the guy who makes it will write custom
code. More for audio but I've  used it on balky NLE transfers before.

http://www.aatranslator.com.au/

stephen van vuuren
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-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
David Torno
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:34 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] Avid to AE workflow HELP!

Got a question for the collective mind here. I have been dealing with a
number of issues recently with new projects coming through our doors. I
don't remember this being such a headache, but I also didn't deal with it
much in the past though. Here's what I'm dealing with...

Project VFX shots and/or project edits are coming from outside Avid editing
house.

Being that Avid apparently does not export XML of a timeline, we have been
given EDL (in various forms) and/or AAF's.

EDL caused the most issues as it would not reconnect or see any media
period. Nor create any remotely useable timeline in Avid or Premiere on our
end. AAF proved to be a nice direct import to AE via Autoduck. Great! I
thought.

Upon viewing the newly created AE timeline, I found that an edit exists. It
seems to have I/O points set on each layer properly and everything is there,
but I noticed that every single layer was linked to a series of source
footage clips all named "file.mov". Well obviously this is useless for me to
reconnect raw media to as I have no way of knowing what the source clip name
is.

After some back and forth of explaining that I need the media clip names to
be the same as the SOURCE media (ie: like how every single other NLE does
it) so I can essentially online the key VFX shots to the raw media so we can
do our job. I have now been given an AAF that has a series of folders with
it containing MXF files and such. Upon opening that AAF I get nearly
everything like it should be except the names again. This time the names
contain the first 9 characters of the source clip followed by random
unrelated characters. These are RED clip names by the way, so they start
A002_C009_... The remaining characters being the most important of course
due to there being multiple clips that can start with "A002_C009".

I'm finding out that Avid does it's own media conversions/alterations (MXF)
middleman baloney to make Avid life easy or something, which is causing
issues with communicating to the outside world?

So without going into a fit about Avid's non logical system, I wanted to
know what I am missing in this workflow. How is anyone else taking Avid
edits into AE cleanly and retaining source media clip names? I think that
covers it. I'm not happy with having to manually reconnect clips and I know
this can't be the right way.


David Torno
Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor
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