Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5164120 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 02:13:11 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.208]) by atl4mhob12.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r720Of93029919 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:24:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 17601 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2013 00:24:41 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 76.169.86.67 X-Authenticated-UID: torno@sydefxink.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.16?) (torno@sydefxink.com@76.169.86.67) by 0 with ESMTPA; 2 Aug 2013 00:24:41 -0000 Subject: Re: [AE] DPX image sequence carry metadata? References: From: David Torno Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C4690F1F-AD07-4A10-8AED-3B886F766383 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8ED8D45C-2ECC-45BC-A285-F7941074A941@sydefxink.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 17:24:39 -0700 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-C4690F1F-AD07-4A10-8AED-3B886F766383 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Input Device: camrolls_mxf - After supporting many conform sessions and th= e many different boxes, this is a bad practice. This should be the source na= me of the element. In Avid/EDL world, it would be the TAPE name or the VFX s= hot name. Good to know. Finally got a DLP.ccc file with all the CDL's and the CDL ID numbers that we= re referenced in the camera reports. On to the next hurdle. :) David Torno Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor http://www.ghosttownmedia.com O: 213.739.2290 C: 818.391.6060 --------------------- http://www.sydefxink.com http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com http://mactex.blogspot.com "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Erik Hansen wrote: > Input Device: camrolls_mxf - After supporting many conform sessions and th= e many different boxes, this is a bad practice. This should be the source na= me of the element. In Avid/EDL world, it would be the TAPE name or the VFX s= hot name. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jeff Krebs wrote: >> Yup - Unlike EXR which contain "data tag" to store information like that,= unfortunately DPX (while it would certainly have the space) to host CDL it'= s just text as opposed to a richer. >>=20 >> Jeff Krebs >> eyeon >>=20 >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:19 PM, David Torno wrote: >>> Not 100% sure what I'm reading here, but it seems to be as you said. No C= DL type of data it seems, which good for us in our fight to say we still don= 't have the CDL data. :) >>>=20 >>> This is the data it had in the "Description" box: >>>=20 >>> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// >>> DPX Plus File Description >>>=20 >>> Byte Order: Big Endian >>> Version: V1.0 >>> File Size: 8302592 >>> Ditto Key: 1 (new frame) >>> Generic Size: 1664 >>> Industry Size: 0 >>> User Size: 0 >>> File Name: >>> Creation Date: >>> Creator: LIBFORMAT >>> Project: >>> Copyright: >>> Encrypt Key: 0xffffffff (unencrypted) >>>=20 >>> Width: 1920 >>> Height: 1080 >>> Image Orientation: Left to Right, Top to Bottom >>> Number of Elements: 1 >>> Pixels Per Line: 1920 >>> Lines Per Element: 1080 >>>=20 >>> Offset: [4294967295, 4294967295] >>> Center: [-1, -1] >>> Original Size: [4294967295, 4294967295] >>> Source Image File Name: >>> Source Date: >>> Input Device: camrolls_mxf >>> Input Device Serial Number: >>> Border: [0, 0, 0, 0] >>> Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0 / 0 >>> Scanned Size: [0, 0] >>>=20 >>> Film Edge Code: >>> Format: >>> Frame Position: 0 >>> Sequence Length: 0 >>> Held Count: 0 >>> Frame Rate: 0 >>> Shutter Angle: 0 >>> Frame ID: >>> Slate Info: >>> Time Code: 14:41:20:13 >>> User Bits: 00:00:00:00 >>> Interlaced: No >>> Field Number: 0 >>> Signal: Undefined >>> Horizontal Sample Rate: 0 >>> Vertical Sample Rate: 0 >>> Temporal Frame Rate: 0 >>> Time Offset: 0 >>> Gamma: 0 >>> Black Level: 0 >>> Black Gain: 0 >>> Break Point: 0 >>> White Level: 0 >>> Integration Times: 0 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =3DElement 1=3D >>> Signed: No >>> Low Data: 0 >>> Low Quantity: 0 >>> High Data: 1023 >>> High Quantity: 2.047 >>> Descriptor: R, G, B >>> Transfer: Linear >>> Colorimetric: Linear >>> Bit Depth: 10 >>> Packing: Filled to 32-bit words, method A >>> Encoding: None >>> Data Offset: 8192 >>> End of Line Padding: 0 >>> End of Image Padding: 0 >>> Description: >>>=20 >>> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// >>>=20 >>> -- >>> David Torno >>> Visual Effects Artist and Supervisor >>> http://www.ghosttownmedia.com >>> david@ghosttownmedia.com >>> O: 213.739.2290 >>> C: 818.391.6060 >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> http://www.sydefxink.com (main portfolio) >>> http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com (vfx tutorials and AE scripts blog) >>> http://mactex.blogspot.com (free textures blog) >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Brendan Bolles [mailto:brendan@fnordware.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 01:55 PM >>> To: 'After Effects Mail List' >>> Subject: Re: [AE] DPX image sequence carry metadata? >>>=20 >>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 2:47 PM, David Torno wrote: >>>=20 >>> > I was under the impression that a DPX image sequence didn't carry meta= data, or any image sequence fir that matter, am I wrong on that? Is it possi= ble to carry CDL metadata from Sony F65 footage through to DPX image sequenc= e output? This is related to my other thread, but I wanted to separate the c= onversations. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> DPXs can hold a lot of different pieces of information in the header, bu= t not AFAIK some new generic metadata like a CDL. It has to be in the DPX s= pec. >>>=20 >>> If you open a DPX in Photoshop with my DPX Plus plug-in, File Info will h= ave a breakdown of all the header contents. There are other tools floating a= round that can do similar. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Brendan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Erik Hansen > 323-316-3731 > eahansen@gmail.com / error1k@me.com > twitter @error1k > error1k.tumblr.com --Apple-Mail-C4690F1F-AD07-4A10-8AED-3B886F766383 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Input Device: camrolls_mxf - After supp= orting many conform sessions and the many different boxes, this is a bad pra= ctice. This should be the source name of the element. In Avid/EDL world, it w= ould be the TAPE name or the VFX shot name.
Good to= know.

Finally got a DLP.ccc file with all the CDL'= s and the CDL ID numbers that were referenced in the camera reports. On to t= he next hurdle. :)


David Torno
Vi= sual Effects Artist & Supervisor
O: 213.739.2= 290
C: 818.391.6060
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"The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Erik Hansen <eahansen@gmail.com> wrote:

Input Device: camrolls_mxf - After supporting many confor= m sessions and the many different boxes, this is a bad practice. This should= be the source name of the element. In Avid/EDL world, it would be the TAPE n= ame or the VFX shot name.

=


On= Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Jeff Krebs <rockinjeff@gmail.com> wrote:
Yup - Unlike EXR which contain "data tag" to s= tore information like that, unfortunately DPX (while it would certainly have= the space) to host CDL it's just text as opposed to a richer.

Jeff Krebs
eyeon

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:19 PM= , David Torno <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:
Not 100% sure what I'm reading here, but it se= ems to be as you said. No CDL type of data it seems, which good for us in ou= r fight to say we still don't have the CDL data. :)

This is the data it had in the "Description" box:

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= ////
DPX Plus File Description

Byte Order: Big Endian
Version: V1.0
File Size: 8302592
Ditto Key: 1 (new frame)
Generic Size: 1664
Industry Size: 0
User Size: 0
File Name:
Creation Date:
Creator: LIBFORMAT
Project:
Copyright:
Encrypt Key: 0xffffffff (unencrypted)

Width: 1920
Height: 1080
Image Orientation: Left to Right, Top to Bottom
Number of Elements: 1
Pixels Per Line: 1920
Lines Per Element: 1080

Offset: [4294967295, 4294967295]
Center: [-1, -1]
Original Size: [4294967295, 4294967295]
Source Image File Name:
Source Date:
Input Device: camrolls_mxf
Input Device Serial Number:
Border: [0, 0, 0, 0]
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0 / 0
Scanned Size: [0, 0]

Film Edge Code:
Format:
Frame Position: 0
Sequence Length: 0
Held Count: 0
Frame Rate: 0
Shutter Angle: 0
Frame ID:
Slate Info:
Time Code: 14:41:20:13
User Bits: 00:00:00:00
Interlaced: No
Field Number: 0
Signal: Undefined
Horizontal Sample Rate: 0
Vertical Sample Rate: 0
Temporal Frame Rate: 0
Time Offset: 0
Gamma: 0
Black Level: 0
Black Gain: 0
Break Point: 0
White Level: 0
Integration Times: 0


=3DElement 1=3D
Signed: No
Low Data: 0
Low Quantity: 0
High Data: 1023
High Quantity: 2.047
Descriptor: R, G, B
Transfer: Linear
Colorimetric: Linear
Bit Depth: 10
Packing: Filled to 32-bit words, method A
Encoding: None
Data Offset: 8192
End of Line Padding: 0
End of Image Padding: 0
Description:

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= ////

--
David Torno
Visual Effects Artist and Supervisor
http://www.ghost= townmedia.com
david@ghosttow= nmedia.com
O: 213= .739.2290
C: 818= .391.6060
------------------------------------------------
http://www.sydefxink.= com  (main portfolio)
http://aeioweyou= .blogspot.com (vfx tutorials and AE scripts blog)
http://mactex.blogs= pot.com  (free textures blog)

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan Bolles [mailto:brendan@fnordware.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 01:55 PM
To: 'After Effects Mail List'
Subject: Re: [AE] DPX image sequence carry metadata?

On Aug 1, 2013, at 2:47 PM, David Torno wrote:

> I was under the impression that a DPX image sequence didn't carry metad= ata, or any image sequence fir that matter, am I wrong on that? Is it possib= le to carry CDL metadata from Sony F65 footage through to DPX image sequence= output? This is related to my other thread, but I wanted to separate the co= nversations.


DPXs can hold a lot of different pieces of information in the header, but no= t AFAIK some new generic metadata like a CDL.  It has to be in the DPX s= pec.

If you open a DPX in Photoshop with my DPX Plus plug-in, File Info will have= a breakdown of all the header contents.  There are other tools floatin= g around that can do similar.


Brendan


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