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From: "Tupper, Scott (HQP)" <scott.tupper@rhi.com>
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: QuickTime X colors off
Thread-Topic: QuickTime X colors off
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:45:34 +0000
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For giggles I made a matte using my client's colors, 0,171,134 inside PPro =
CS6, export ProRes 422, opened in QT 7 with FCS compatibility on, sampled i=
t with the OSX DigitalColor Meter and got 0,169,137, not bad but not great.=
  Open that same mov in QT X (just as my client is doing) and sampled at 1,=
180,145, the same as if I turned off FCS in QT 7.
My understanding is PPro doesn't manage color, even if it did why is legacy=
 QT 7 (with FCS on) closer than QT X?
Is gamma really an issue here in 10.8.4 I thought all was 2.2?
I'm going mad on this one.
Help anyone?

-scott

From: Lloyd Alvarez <lists@aescripts.com<mailto:lists@aescripts.com>>
Reply-To: After List <AE-List@media-motion.tv<mailto:AE-List@media-motion.t=
v>>
Date: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:44 AM
To: After List <AE-List@media-motion.tv<mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv>>
Subject: Re: [AE] client review tool

If you render to a codec that supports color profiles like prores then it s=
hould look the same in QT X as it does in AE as long as you are using color=
 management.

Lloyd

On Wednesday, August 14, 2013, Tupper, Scott (HQP) wrote:
Just played torture test viewing the same video in QuickTime 7, QuickTime X=
 and VLC.
YIKES!
VLC was the most faithful in color reproduction but how do I convince the c=
lient to use VLC over QuickTime?

Is VLC doing something that QT isn't, reading color profile info?

Thanks as always!

-scott

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<div>For giggles I made a matte using my client's colors, 0,171,134 inside =
PPro CS6, export ProRes 422, opened in QT 7 with FCS compatibility on, samp=
led it with the OSX DigitalColor Meter and got 0,169,137, not bad but not g=
reat. &nbsp;Open that same mov in QT
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<div>My understanding is PPro doesn't manage color, even if it did why is l=
egacy QT 7 (with FCS on) closer than QT X?</div>
<div>Is gamma really an issue here in 10.8.4 I thought all was 2.2?</div>
<div>I'm going mad on this one.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Help anyone?</div>
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<div>-scott</div>
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<div>If you render to a codec that supports color profiles like prores then=
 it should look the same in QT X as it does in AE as long as you are using =
color management.
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<div>Lloyd<span></span><br>
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<div>Just played torture test viewing the same video in QuickTime 7, QuickT=
ime X and VLC. &nbsp;</div>
<div>YIKES!</div>
<div>VLC was the most faithful in color reproduction but how do I convince =
the client to use VLC over QuickTime?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is VLC doing something that QT isn't, reading color profile info?</div=
>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks as always!</div>
<div><br>
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<div>-scott</div>
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