Return-Path: Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net ([207.145.128.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5187170 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 23:40:10 +0200 Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C2E1EE4F7A for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 17:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22806 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2013 21:52:25 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 29174, pid: 10968, t: 0.1881s scanners: clamav: m: Received: from c-67-185-28-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.125]) (albion@[67.185.28.214]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Aug 2013 21:52:25 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: [AE] USA and the emerging 'Software Piracy Gap'!! From: James Culbertson In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:51:52 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6C0B0C4F-6018-451E-BCF9-BD6177D97F91@speakeasy.net> References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail1.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Jim Tierney wrote: > >> I have to say that I think Adobe's method of business with creative = cloud is the best idea so far. Make the purchase price of your product = more attainable at a longer stretch profit and more people will be = inclined to purchase. > Given that they=92re giving away a year of CC to people that attend = certain conferences, I have doubts that this is currently working out = great for them. There are also a significant number of users that are = REALLY hostile to the idea, since for some users the CC is a significant = price increase. It is definitely not cheaper for people that only = upgrade every three versions. Pissing off your existing customers is a = questionable strategy. Long term it=92ll probably work out for them, but = right now, who knows. I'm finding that most folks I talk to just shrug their shoulders and say = they will probably have to go to CC at some point. Considering that most = of the editors I know are still using FCP7 for a lot of what they do = that point in time could be a long way off. In the long term CC appears = to be an opening for other software developers. Competition will be a = good thing for all of us. For myself the only CC app I might need in the = next year or two is After Effects; though I am fine with AE CS6 for now. The biggest issue for Adobe that I can see is their educational CC group = pricing. I am going to be teaching career and technical education = classes in Graphic Design and Video Production at our local high school = and they cannot afford Adobe CC educational pricing in any of its forms. = So we will be teaching FCPX/Motion instead of Premiere/After Effects. We = are still on Adobe CS2 (running on Windows 7 in BootCamp because it does = not run on OSX 7 and to be compatible with a Roland Vinyl Cutter) and = Photoshop Elements 6. We are not alone by any means. If Adobe gets realistic with their educational group pricing, I'll even = teach Premiere instead of FCPX. ;-) James