From: Sharon Etter <Sharon.Etter@uts.edu.au>
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 10:53:07 +1000
Subject: Re: [AE] USA and the emerging 'Software Piracy Gap'!!
Thread-Topic: [AE] USA and the emerging 'Software Piracy Gap'!!
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On 25/08/2013, at 9:17 AM, "Steve Oakley" <steveo@practicali.com> wrote:

>=20
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 4:51 PM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net> wrot=
e:
>=20
>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Jim Tierney wrote:
>>=20
>>>>> I have to say that I think Adobe's method of business with creative c=
loud is the best idea so far. Make the purchase price of your product more =
attainable at a longer stretch profit and more people will be inclined to p=
urchase.
>>=20
>> The biggest issue for Adobe that I can see is their educational CC group=
 pricing. I am going to be teaching career and technical education classes =
in Graphic Design and Video Production at our local high school and they ca=
nnot afford Adobe CC educational pricing in any of its forms. So we will be=
 teaching FCPX/Motion instead of Premiere/After Effects. We are still on Ad=
obe CS2 (running on Windows 7 in BootCamp because it does not run on OSX 7 =
and to be compatible with a Roland Vinyl Cutter) and Photoshop Elements 6. =
We are not alone by any means.
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> you know the entire point of CC is that everyone stays current, and gets =
more frequent updates. the entire we're on CS2/3/4 goes out the window and =
everyone is on CC now. in fact I think its a very serious disservice to the=
 students to be teaching them FCP X / Motion as the primary apps because th=
ey just don't have market share. you'd be better off using FCP7 because tha=
t resembles most other NLE's. I suppose whats worse is that the students ma=
y well have adobe CC on their own laptops. I've seen that a lot. you know t=
hose kids are paying perfectly good money to learn whats current and releva=
nt and not be using apps that are 6 or 7 years old. why not simply require =
the students to have their own machine with CC ? its quite common these day=
s, not different than buying books for a class.

I'm with James, as a university faculty teaching arts education (most defin=
itely not a growth area if you know anything about Australian politics), be=
ing core business for us obviously we have a higher budget than schools, bu=
t we will have to stay with CS6 suite for as long as adobe supports it, the=
n look at other options.

This will be the first software we have NOT kept current, and update our 10=
 mac labs at the end of every 14 week semester, and hardware every 3 years.

Unless bulk educational CC subscriptions become more affordable for a singl=
e faculty, (initial quote was $300 thousand for a site license that only 2 =
x faculties use, needless to say the answer to that was NO), we'll have to =
use alternatives.
ta

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