Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5187655 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:28:36 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.7] (CPE-72-135-117-181.new.res.rr.com [72.135.117.181]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LhPqq-1VrKue1RYG-00mpxG; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 11:40:49 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [AE] USA and the emerging 'Software Piracy Gap'!! From: Steve Oakley In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 10:40:49 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:DJe13StOji3IEiGK4+AnfKv9t1AtXCEMxgF/4T/kYt5 JarfyWnoue3wH+imNUdWkv1W4v8nFuSLJcHF0VGwcHvxvjzg33 L2OyXvPt1FLKMI2SQ/iIaQ0pX3EEteXkRC8a9MJgPgTxWxeuyd v9EV9lOIYZvjpv7a1WDvksmScyTYpe4H3bOowL0bD4e44YswTx vXsrfm67TYIzzuxmxOcTF+evIUYsdWQZqpG+7UjtBipw1QtHCo cwyIbMzrsQMsHTI+le0OUizrRVbNe1u4b+4DA2Xhya+k9c3VaG tBoanpxBzsZsc2nMMqZ0L2gsUbaRoLHtzy819Jnb3gygqx47s1 4Nr3sSTiWYwjlHtDN92P0gVWwVOURECd7pXJ5INYf6x9QIMTCg lerpET4Ms9TJg== OK, you didn't say HS so I'll take 50% of that back. however I see the = same thing at colleges which I do find unacceptable for people who are = paying for those classes. yes I did have to buy my kid a upper end = laptop for college last year, and yes they can require certain apps be = installed for certain classes. with student discounts its not a bad = deal. FCP X is ok if you are just doing web videos, but when you need to do = stuff for broadcast ( however its delivered ) its a different ball game = which is something you didn't clarify. PP CC is now #1 in market share for seats in use and revenue. if your = school district can't cover $2500-$3000 it probably has far more serious = problems which I'm sorry to hear. S > n Aug 24, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Steve Oakley = wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On Aug 24, 2013, at 4:51 PM, James Culbertson = wrote: >>=20 >>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Jim Tierney wrote: >>>=20 >>>>>> I have to say that I think Adobe's method of business with = creative cloud is the best idea so far. Make the purchase price of your = product more attainable at a longer stretch profit and more people will = be inclined to purchase. >>>=20 >>> The biggest issue for Adobe that I can see is their educational CC = group pricing. I am going to be teaching career and technical education = classes in Graphic Design and Video Production at our local high school = and they cannot afford Adobe CC educational pricing in any of its forms. = So we will be teaching FCPX/Motion instead of Premiere/After Effects. We = are still on Adobe CS2 (running on Windows 7 in BootCamp because it does = not run on OSX 7 and to be compatible with a Roland Vinyl Cutter) and = Photoshop Elements 6. We are not alone by any means. >>=20 >> you know the entire point of CC is that everyone stays current, and = gets more frequent updates. the entire we're on CS2/3/4 goes out the = window and everyone is on CC now. in fact I think its a very serious = disservice to the students to be teaching them FCP X / Motion as the = primary apps because they just don't have market share. you'd be better = off using FCP7 because that resembles most other NLE's. I suppose whats = worse is that the students may well have adobe CC on their own laptops. = I've seen that a lot. you know those kids are paying perfectly good = money to learn whats current and relevant and not be using apps that are = 6 or 7 years old. why not simply require the students to have their own = machine with CC ? its quite common these days, not different than buying = books for a class. >>=20 >> S >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to