Return-Path: Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5187809 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:21:08 +0200 Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n20so250175qaj.14 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:33:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=HbV66WvJnK1Wm+jZ6d4kfnQGYLvyKYsgtuDgWUJi31c=; b=e6D+a1nG6Hf5KTJ5oReQwgz7wnIx/VcuEzRH3a1Oyy9b8AqWcXq0BOYmhJX+rIbRPG KolxOYaZ/GWYHITKyvC1cZxYVh14b7PVKLvlDRBIy3G3FmKaUKo2EfDDxAofg71O7r8R te3VdvRq23R7soWzrOGPA9mXid11+JpccRL1YQFykV9V3xzuuAIeX+ngmNzukzQBiRtj FglvhMkfkQmJ3RYMNtgINmSyF0MaXdoxe8X/uUyoeAPQy9Is9lVdO1iNOwKi8lHbCENc KQW8k4edEysiZYRvd7aiX7OzM3kQ3vqEk78py+Wsx2bRAt1ApFn3GL4XLOjEKDEk/kQQ Nsaw== X-Received: by 10.229.13.10 with SMTP id z10mr2956086qcz.60.1377459206088; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:33:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.116.49 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Aug 2013 12:32:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:32:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Anyone use a hardware Jog/Shuttle? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133b4aaabedb204e4cab6e5 --001a1133b4aaabedb204e4cab6e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loving the contour shuttle pro v2. It actually fixed a huge problem I had with premiere - when using JKL to scrub (since software shuttle was removed) the audio pitches up with playback speed making it impossible to understand dialog. Since the shuttle works by way of key macros (ie it is basically presing the arrow key fwd 60x per second) scrubbing with the wheel works more like FCP ffw where the audio remains intelligable. Additionally, the button macros can be programmed very in depth, much more so than the cintiq in software, nearly to the point of having actions (ie enter command, wait 2s, enter new command, etc) so it makes for some great AE shortcuts with the 15 hardware buttons. Especially teamed up with the flexibility of ft-toolbar 2. Overall highly recommended! On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Jayse Hansen wrote: > ooooooh yes - I can see for rotoscoping how that would work great. That I= S > one plus of the contour - it has a click turn if I remember right - the M= C > Transport is just smooth - so a frame by frame in ae feels less precise. > > -------------------------------- > Jayse Hansen > www.jayse.tv > jayse@jayse.tv > 702-321-3449 > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Mathias M=F6hl wrot= e: > >> I am happy with my Shuttle Xpress. But I mainly use it for rotoscoping >> in AE where its very helpful to go through the clip frame by frame. >> >> Cheers, >> Mathias >> >> Am 21.08.2013 22:42, schrieb Teddy Gage: >> >> Hey all I've got a big premiere project and ever since they removed the >> software shuttle buttons in ppro I've found the J-K-L shortcuts aren't a= s >> fast as they are in FCP. With so much footage to go through, I'm >> considering a hardware jog / shuttle. couple of questions: >> >> - Are there any peripherals that also work with AE? or are specifically >> for AE? My guess is no. The one I'm looking at has multiple software mac= ro >> buttons, that may be able to be mapped to AE shortcuts, which would make= it >> worth it. I know my cintiq macro buttons work great in AE for roto, so I >> don't see why it wouldn't work. >> >> - Do any of you actually use a hardware shuttle? Is it worth it? My >> concern is cluttering up my desk for something I'll only use sparingly >> >> I'm looking at this one, which for $100 isn't gonna break the bank >> anyway. >> >> http://retail.contourdesign.com/?/products/23 >> >> -- >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------ >> * mamoworld.com >> tools & tutorials for After Effects* >> >> dr. mathias m=F6hl >> marlow 52, 18551 sagard, germany >> phone +49 (0)38302 - 887561 >> info@mamoworld.com >> > > --=20 Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --001a1133b4aaabedb204e4cab6e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Loving the contour shuttle pro v2.

<= /div>It actually fixed a huge problem I had with premiere - when using JKL = to scrub (since software shuttle was removed) the audio pitches up with pla= yback speed making it impossible to understand dialog. Since the shuttle wo= rks by way of key macros (ie it is basically presing the arrow key fwd 60x = per second) scrubbing with the wheel works more like FCP ffw where the audi= o remains intelligable.

Additionally, the button macros can be programmed very in depth, = much more so than the cintiq in software, nearly to the point of having act= ions (ie enter command, wait 2s, enter new command, etc) so it makes for so= me great AE shortcuts with the 15 hardware buttons. Especially teamed up wi= th the flexibility of ft-toolbar 2.

Overall highly recommended!
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Jayse Ha= nsen <mographer@gmail.com> wrote:
ooooooh yes - I can see for= rotoscoping how that would work great. That IS one plus of the contour - i= t has a click turn if I remember right - the MC Transport is just smooth - = so a frame by frame in ae feels less precise.=A0

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Jayse Hansen
www.jayse.tv
jayse@jayse.tv



On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 a= t 2:09 AM, Mathias M=F6hl <info@mamoworld.com> wrote:
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I am happy with my Shuttle Xpress. But I mainly use it for rotoscoping in AE where its very helpful to go through the clip frame by frame.

Cheers,
Mathias

Am 21.08.2013 22:42, schrieb Teddy Gage:
Hey all I've got a big premiere project and ever since they removed the software shuttle buttons in ppro I've foun= d the J-K-L shortcuts aren't as fast as they are in FCP. With so much footage to go through, I'm considering a hardware jog / shuttle. couple of questions:

- Are there any peripherals that also work with AE? or are specifically for AE? My guess is no. The one I'm looking at has multiple software macro buttons, that may be able to be mapped to AE shortcuts, which would make it worth it. I know my cintiq macro buttons work great in AE for roto, so I don't see why it wouldn't work.

- Do any of you actually use a hardware shuttle? Is it worth it? My concern is cluttering up my desk for something I'll only use sparingly

I'm looking at this one, which for $100 isn't go= nna break the bank anyway.

http://retail.contourdesign.com/?/products/23

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tools & tutorials for After Effects

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marlow 52, 18551 sagard, germany
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info@mamowo= rld.com





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