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Subject: Re: [AE] USA and the emerging 'Software Piracy Gap'!!
From: Klein Brian <briancklein1@gmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:06:00 -0500
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Some television shows are using FCPX. While Avid and Premiere are the =
leaders in the broadcast and film world, FCPX is being used see: =
<http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/in-action/>. (Yes, I know, it's =
Apple's site, but these are instances of broadcast using FCPX. It's the =
quickest, easiest link I could find.)=20

If I was a college student, I would want training in both FCPX and =
Premiere Pro. When I went to school for broadcast journalism, they =
trained us in Media 100 and Avid. But really when it comes down to it, =
the technology changes all the time, and learning what buttons to push =
is the easy part. The education should be focused on telling stories.

Brian Klein

On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com> =
wrote:

>=20
> OK, you didn't say HS so I'll take 50% of that back. however I see the =
same thing at colleges which I do find unacceptable for people who are =
paying for those classes. yes I did have to buy my kid a upper end =
laptop for college last year, and yes they can require certain apps be =
installed for certain classes. with student discounts its not a bad =
deal.
>=20
> FCP X is ok if you are just doing web videos, but when you need to do =
stuff for broadcast ( however its delivered ) its a different ball game =
which is something you didn't clarify.
>=20
> PP CC is now #1 in market share for seats in use and revenue. if your =
school district can't cover $2500-$3000 it probably has far more serious =
problems which I'm sorry to hear.
>=20
> S
>=20
>> n Aug 24, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 4:51 PM, James Culbertson <albion@speakeasy.net> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Jim Tierney wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I have to say that I think Adobe's method of business with =
creative cloud is the best idea so far. Make the purchase price of your =
product more attainable at a longer stretch profit and more people will =
be inclined to purchase.
>>>>=20
>>>> The biggest issue for Adobe that I can see is their educational CC =
group pricing. I am going to be teaching career and technical education =
classes in Graphic Design and Video Production at our local high school =
and they cannot afford Adobe CC educational pricing in any of its forms. =
So we will be teaching FCPX/Motion instead of Premiere/After Effects. We =
are still on Adobe CS2 (running on Windows 7 in BootCamp because it does =
not run on OSX 7 and to be compatible with a Roland Vinyl Cutter) and =
Photoshop Elements 6. We are not alone by any means.
>>>=20
>>> you know the entire point of CC is that everyone stays current, and =
gets more frequent updates. the entire we're on CS2/3/4 goes out the =
window and everyone is on CC now. in fact I think its a very serious =
disservice to the students to be teaching them FCP X / Motion as the =
primary apps because they just don't have market share. you'd be better =
off using FCP7 because that resembles most other NLE's. I suppose whats =
worse is that the students may well have adobe CC on their own laptops. =
I've seen that a lot. you know those kids are paying perfectly good =
money to learn whats current and relevant and not be using apps that are =
6 or 7 years old. why not simply require the students to have their own =
machine with CC ? its quite common these days, not different than buying =
books for a class.
>>>=20
>>> S
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>=20
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