Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com ([209.85.217.171] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5200094 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 21:05:17 +0200 Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id u14so817513lbd.16 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ApsjD0PVDmGdOqB5htvbdjC8NB5UKBZ1DDzSbKTiMoI=; b=E3ln7a9/qYQ4Ar8PAIDr4RW3r2Rm3DSK6DxMP09cHdNpZ/dC338jIkKB3e5QIgt6yH y3gz0szM5HC//qRbAp8VdTNtOVdtoehW5bnCbs85XN8RyZEcPPHz0X47gQynNcdaUwPQ 6G4OdO6NigDPVAAXk/hGSLkTMUJqOn1DQp++cllS/wvdALWJEdweqTF0VkNrzvKlCKSo OhAWaNhbQQGqTISJxH2OBx6Gko+H/ywtPZSND19po9yTZW1B5BuhxLp0gy/eSzou6CHn /hECsmdgBgXl07DFfa2uuh/Y+BhI36A/qAcsT7GAgO13coHAO193BFJjclDM5BsUCXoN lCgw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.19.97 with SMTP id d1mr3156896lae.34.1378322275651; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.26.236 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:17:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Element question now Mocha Ques From: Brian Behm To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149373ca056e004e593a9b3 --089e0149373ca056e004e593a9b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Very true, Ross. I've been meaning to upgrade so that I have access to that part of it. Actually, I really need to just move to Mocha Pro. I tend to lean on Mocha pretty heavily at work. I was just writing based on what I knew Lou would have in his toolbox. Brian Behm Rooster Teeth Productions Austin, TX On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ross Shain wrote: > Or use mocha AE v3 for 3D camera solver ;) > > On 4 September 2013 15:09, Brian Behm wrote: > >> Lou, >> >> This sounds like it might not be something you want to track in Mocha. >> I'd look at using the normal After Effects camera tracker that got bundled >> in last version. You'll be able to grab a null from that will be in the >> right 3D space with a camera that's pretty close to right. Mocha is great >> but this sounds like something where you want have a better idea about the >> volume of the space and not just one tracked point. >> >> >> Brian >> >> >> Brian Behm >> Rooster Teeth Productions >> Austin, TX >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Lou Wirth wrote: >> >>> Okay Thanks. Now a Mocha question. As I stated below, trying to >>> motion track a city aerial and apply to null, parent text to null. Its >>> kind of ok but not great. The text is not really locked into the >>> landscape. Kind of drifting. Do I sample a smaller area when tracking? >>> or should I apple stabilizer to the aerial first? >>> >>> Lou >>> Lou Wirth Productions >>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 >>> Corte Madera, CA 94925 >>> www.louwirth.com >>> 415-924-9411p >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>> >>> > IIRC, the only layers that Element recognizes as Group Sources are >>> text or masks, not precomps. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Lou Wirth wrote: >>> > >>> >> I have a solid color box 400x700 with a titles on it, precomposed the >>> two layers. Put in new comp and added a solid to apply Element. I want to >>> be able to extrude this box and position over a city aerial, motion track >>> the aerial and apply to the box. So this massive monolith title over its >>> color bg is sitting in the city among the buildings. Problem is I can't >>> figure out how to get the title and color on my extruded Element object I >>> set custom layer to my pre comp title and particle replicator as my layer. >>> But no go. Just get the blank model in Element. Any suggestions? >>> >> >>> >> thanks >>> >> >>> >> Lou >>> >> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 >>> >> Corte Madera, CA 94925 >>> >> www.louwirth.com >>> >> 415-924-9411p >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> +---End of message---+ >>> >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> > >>> > >>> > +---End of message---+ >>> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> not getting enough of my blather? >> check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com >> or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.com >> > > > > -- > Ross Shain > Chief Marketing Officer > Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual > effects tools. > > www.imagineersystems.com > Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: > rosss@imagineersystems.com > > Find us online: > Facebook | Vimeo| Imagineer > Forums | Imagineer Blog > -- not getting enough of my blather? check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.com --089e0149373ca056e004e593a9b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Very true, Ross. I've been meaning to upgrade so that = I have access to that part of it. Actually, I really need to just move to M= ocha Pro. I tend to lean on Mocha pretty heavily at work. I was just writin= g based on what I knew Lou would have in his toolbox.=A0

Brian Behm
Rooster Teeth Productions
Austin, TX


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ross Shain <ross= s@imagineersystems.com> wrote:
Or use mocha AE v3 for 3D c= amera solver ;)

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On 4 September 2013 15:09, Brian Behm <flabbyironman@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Lou,

This sounds like it might not be something you want to track in Mocha. I= 'd look at using the normal After Effects camera tracker that got bundl= ed in last version. You'll be able to grab a null from that will be in = the right 3D space with a camera that's pretty close to right. Mocha is= great but this sounds like something where you want have a better idea abo= ut the volume of the space and not just one tracked point.=A0


Brian=A0


<= div>Brian Behm
Rooster Teeth Productions
Austin, TX


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>= wrote:
Okay Thanks. =A0 Now a Mocha question. =A0As= I stated below, trying to motion track a city aerial and apply to null, pa= rent text to null. =A0Its kind of ok but not great. =A0The text is not real= ly locked into the landscape. =A0Kind of drifting. =A0Do I sample a smaller= area when tracking? =A0or should I apple stabilizer to the aerial first?
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com<= br> 415-924-9411p





On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:

> IIRC, the only layers that Element recognizes as Group Sources are tex= t or masks, not precomps.
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a solid color box 400x700 with a titles on it, precomposed = the two layers. =A0Put in new comp and added a solid to apply Element. =A0I= want to be able to extrude this box and position over a city aerial, motio= n track the aerial and apply to the box. =A0So this massive monolith title = over its color bg is sitting in the city among the buildings. =A0Problem is= I can't figure out how to get the title and color on my extruded Eleme= nt object =A0I set custom layer to my pre comp title and particle replicato= r as my layer. =A0But no go. =A0Just get the blank model in Element. =A0Any= suggestions?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Lou
>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> www.louwirth= .com
>> 415-924-9411p
>>
>>
>>
>>
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