Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog125.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.159] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 5200095 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 21:10:48 +0200 Received: from mail-wg0-f45.google.com ([74.125.82.45]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob125.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUieIrt+IEOhqoV1Q8hopO7vvyWUpCZZh@postini.com; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 19:23:26 UTC Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id y10so812549wgg.12 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 12:23:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=m7GUMN+k1ju72go8EOaBQAEeiMpkwaaNCsQjRBLxAIA=; b=fFpxTaz77UjI1DBSdjR/26X9larC5e+wySsogUdKdl/cmQmdjNmbCErggEMVEJoVsJ PxcQ1IGMxSW3CL/Jjqa8ytIxfIQGVz4PzWUu4+GhjPvq2W7GMvYUtD6ErpFdjwlpo7WO OPC3cOzotTTkQ/gDFyR84F2C6Zc/aosn1o5uSaXJ3u07w0/72QQwDLmxSI1m9A/nRNVz N0EtUW+oOntnpfuxQkglwj6vcbQTjg4GGetVzWl/22xIvxKhIBycUsmkCOEfypmiWoiM bT+jMgHgGhf+/Zlxb4p4gLKrqClcOgy9RlxKjwo2FnlaxWsCDAB8wkG2dYbHJgzpvP+o D0uw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlg5q816/H34wB1PYjkdHbL1OGMhg0XH1auiHRhe85xhJ5rsHePFQmskR3QkdKr3SR4CZ59M1EUFrUnkm95qPIfWOdQQdfx/HGk0gwAC11apqyNiXYSd8a5tPX3F9WORKLAgkVh24+rsTWeiXaebBuo51/LbEYqj6R3u+ZwAAFBxWcNReE= X-Received: by 10.180.13.174 with SMTP id i14mr3323419wic.49.1378322606507; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 12:23:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.13.174 with SMTP id i14mr3323410wic.49.1378322606372; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 12:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.201.196 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 12:23:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 15:23:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Element question now Mocha Ques From: Ross Shain To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c227e856e39c04e593bd96 --001a11c227e856e39c04e593bd96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just being sassy and pointing out that mocha also has some 3D tracking capabilities. BTW, people always ask me about the AE Camera tracker and from my personal tests, I have been really impressed. On 4 September 2013 15:17, Brian Behm wrote: > Very true, Ross. I've been meaning to upgrade so that I have access to > that part of it. Actually, I really need to just move to Mocha Pro. I tend > to lean on Mocha pretty heavily at work. I was just writing based on what I > knew Lou would have in his toolbox. > > Brian Behm > Rooster Teeth Productions > Austin, TX > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ross Shain wrote: > >> Or use mocha AE v3 for 3D camera solver ;) >> >> On 4 September 2013 15:09, Brian Behm wrote: >> >>> Lou, >>> >>> This sounds like it might not be something you want to track in Mocha. >>> I'd look at using the normal After Effects camera tracker that got bundled >>> in last version. You'll be able to grab a null from that will be in the >>> right 3D space with a camera that's pretty close to right. Mocha is great >>> but this sounds like something where you want have a better idea about the >>> volume of the space and not just one tracked point. >>> >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> Brian Behm >>> Rooster Teeth Productions >>> Austin, TX >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Lou Wirth wrote: >>> >>>> Okay Thanks. Now a Mocha question. As I stated below, trying to >>>> motion track a city aerial and apply to null, parent text to null. Its >>>> kind of ok but not great. The text is not really locked into the >>>> landscape. Kind of drifting. Do I sample a smaller area when tracking? >>>> or should I apple stabilizer to the aerial first? >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> Lou Wirth Productions >>>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 >>>> Corte Madera, CA 94925 >>>> www.louwirth.com >>>> 415-924-9411p >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>> >>>> > IIRC, the only layers that Element recognizes as Group Sources are >>>> text or masks, not precomps. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Lou Wirth wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I have a solid color box 400x700 with a titles on it, precomposed >>>> the two layers. Put in new comp and added a solid to apply Element. I >>>> want to be able to extrude this box and position over a city aerial, motion >>>> track the aerial and apply to the box. So this massive monolith title over >>>> its color bg is sitting in the city among the buildings. Problem is I >>>> can't figure out how to get the title and color on my extruded Element >>>> object I set custom layer to my pre comp title and particle replicator as >>>> my layer. But no go. Just get the blank model in Element. Any >>>> suggestions? >>>> >> >>>> >> thanks >>>> >> >>>> >> Lou >>>> >> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522 >>>> >> Corte Madera, CA 94925 >>>> >> www.louwirth.com >>>> >> 415-924-9411p >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> +---End of message---+ >>>> >> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > +---End of message---+ >>>> > To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> >>>> >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> not getting enough of my blather? >>> check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com >>> or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ross Shain >> Chief Marketing Officer >> Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual >> effects tools. >> >> www.imagineersystems.com >> Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: >> rosss@imagineersystems.com >> >> Find us online: >> Facebook | Vimeo| Imagineer >> Forums | Imagineer Blog >> > > > > -- > not getting enough of my blather? > check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com > or my portfolio at http://behmcreative.com > -- Ross Shain Chief Marketing Officer Imagineer Systems - developers of* mocha* planar tracking and visual effects tools. www.imagineersystems.com Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com Find us online: Facebook | Vimeo| Imagineer Forums | Imagineer Blog --001a11c227e856e39c04e593bd96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just being sassy and pointing out that mocha also has some= 3D tracking capabilities. BTW, people always ask me about the AE Camera tr= acker and from my personal tests, I have been really impressed.


On 4 Septembe= r 2013 15:17, Brian Behm <flabbyironman@gmail.com> wro= te:
Very true, Ross. I've b= een meaning to upgrade so that I have access to that part of it. Actually, = I really need to just move to Mocha Pro. I tend to lean on Mocha pretty hea= vily at work. I was just writing based on what I knew Lou would have in his= toolbox.=A0

Brian Behm
Rooster Teeth Productions
Austin, TX
<= div class=3D"gmail_extra">

On Wed, Sep 4,= 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ross Shain <rosss@imagineersystems.com><= /span> wrote:
Or use mocha AE v3 for 3D c= amera solver ;)

On 4 September 2013 15:09, Brian Behm <flabbyironman@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Lou,

This sounds like it might not be something you want to track in Mocha. I= 'd look at using the normal After Effects camera tracker that got bundl= ed in last version. You'll be able to grab a null from that will be in = the right 3D space with a camera that's pretty close to right. Mocha is= great but this sounds like something where you want have a better idea abo= ut the volume of the space and not just one tracked point.=A0


Brian=A0


<= div>Brian Behm
Rooster Teeth Productions
Austin, TX


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>= wrote:
Okay Thanks. =A0 Now a Mocha question. =A0As= I stated below, trying to motion track a city aerial and apply to null, pa= rent text to null. =A0Its kind of ok but not great. =A0The text is not real= ly locked into the landscape. =A0Kind of drifting. =A0Do I sample a smaller= area when tracking? =A0or should I apple stabilizer to the aerial first?
Lou
Lou Wirth Productions
500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
Corte Madera, CA 94925
www.louwirth.com<= br> 415-924-9411p





On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:

> IIRC, the only layers that Element recognizes as Group Sources are tex= t or masks, not precomps.
>
>
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a solid color box 400x700 with a titles on it, precomposed = the two layers. =A0Put in new comp and added a solid to apply Element. =A0I= want to be able to extrude this box and position over a city aerial, motio= n track the aerial and apply to the box. =A0So this massive monolith title = over its color bg is sitting in the city among the buildings. =A0Problem is= I can't figure out how to get the title and color on my extruded Eleme= nt object =A0I set custom layer to my pre comp title and particle replicato= r as my layer. =A0But no go. =A0Just get the blank model in Element. =A0Any= suggestions?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Lou
>> 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
>> Corte Madera, CA 94925
>> www.louwirth= .com
>> 415-924-9411p
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--
Ross Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Systems - dev= elopers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools.

www.imagi= neersystems.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com<= br>
Find us online:
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not getting = enough of my blather?
check out http://flabbyironman.blogspot.com
or my port= folio at http://behmc= reative.com



--
Ross Shain
Chief Marketing Officer
Imagineer Systems - develop= ers of mocha planar tracking and visual effects tools.

www.imagineersystem= s.com
Phone: +1.646.298.6458 | Fax: 646.808.0831 | Email: rosss@imagineersystems.com
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