Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5208237 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:07:12 +0200 Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id t7so2851955qcv.35 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:20:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=gDGkOhparebeP040+R908G9GeApOPW8zkOEtoQKbctQ=; b=EtnP2PukJ0troStlEja1m69TvkqYoYS/XNKoEGIeLd6swy+Xh9Jlxm4oVLs9py0SoO v2bm35za7g2obiZa6NU4K8BWiPMqb7sbbSdN2aXNP6iDVKAwI/8RaOqaQfCme/twnnlF hCS2MpqL9pJz6Gt9FynP9BtgwQkMlFIrMGrZ7MDTjZUnk5Ugif79A+qDY+ZzFhJCWvOc +a7uhyxQ2qlXt2iyFj1e1Q15IckV/a3+siUCmDZygKw2tCsv5ebl3dgNO7bvc20apeQl zt54j0sxNdeWw+/CYsp0TWUEpU44R4lPUjlx+HDoGNu0EGkG5sj727x3ZN2GM7Ie05MP wbog== X-Received: by 10.49.39.39 with SMTP id m7mr5208845qek.60.1378920002327; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:20:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.108.42 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:19:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Teddy Gage Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:19:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Mocha AE CC frame import error To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc1564e9b85004e61ed464 --047d7bdc1564e9b85004e61ed464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That makes sense. Any reason for PNG over TIF? I thought TIF supported additional bit depth and lossless? Also, it's not really about the audio, more that sometimes I don't want the extra step of transcoding to a sequence if the rest of footage is in another codec. I just tried DNxHD and it works great with mocha. I don't mind having all my footage in this codec so if I need to track a surprise new item I won't have to stop and wait for a render to sequence. Anyway, thanks David. -TG On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:56 AM, David Torno wrote: > No point in having the audio round trip through a roto/track app. That can > always be added back in AE or your assembly tool of choice. > > I always use PNG frame sequences for quick track work or DPX if I really > need to mess with the image a bit to see details, but mostly JPG or PNG > sequences to keep things fast. > > David Torno > Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor > http://www.ghosttownmedia.com > O: 213.739.2290 > C: 818.391.6060 > --------------------- > http://www.sydefxink.com > http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com > http://mactex.blogspot.com > > "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" > -Charles Field > > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > > OK, looks like it didn't work in CS6 after all, it just imported the right > frame range and then I got the white screen indicating an incompatible > codec. So now I know mocha is more finicky with codecs than AE. What is the > best codec to use with mocha? Looking for lossless, as it's a short clip. > 10bit uncompressed QT .mov did not work either. JPG sequence did work fine > in both, but I'd like audio to make the round trip too if possible. Does it > support Avid DNS? 8bit YUV? .avi vs. .mov? Thanks, > TG > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Teddy Gage wrote: > >> Just went to use the new mocha AE included in CC and I can't import any >> clips. The frame range for an imported clip is always 0 to 1 and I can't >> change either value either by typing or sliders. very strange. Then after >> the clip is "imported" it says "frame range is incorrect". well no shit... >> This is using the "track in mocha" command from AE timeline. on a win 7 >> 64x pc. The clips are .mp4. However these clips will work fine and load >> normally in the version of mocha AE included in CS6. Any idea what's going >> on? bad prefs? some setting I switched? gnomes? >> -TG >> >> -- >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >> > > > > -- > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn > > -- Animator & Editor www.teddygage.com Brooklyn --047d7bdc1564e9b85004e61ed464 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That makes sense. Any reason for PNG over TIF? I thou= ght TIF supported additional bit depth and lossless?

=A0=A0=A0 Also= , it's not really about the audio, more that sometimes I don't want= the extra step of transcoding to a sequence if the rest of footage is in a= nother codec. I just tried DNxHD and it works great with mocha. I don't= mind having all my footage in this codec so if I need to track a surprise = new item I won't have to stop and wait for a render to sequence. Anyway= , thanks David.
-TG


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:56 AM, David Torno <torno@sydefxink.com<= /a>> wrote:
No point in having th= e audio round trip through a roto/track app. That can always be added back = in AE or your assembly tool of choice.

I always use PNG frame sequences for quick track work o= r DPX if I really need to mess with the image a bit to see details, but mos= tly JPG or PNG sequences to keep things fast.

David Torno
Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor
O: 213.739.2290
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http://www.sydefxink.comhttp://a= eioweyou.blogspot.com

"The most useless day is tha= t in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
OK, looks like= it didn't work in CS6 after all, it just imported the right frame rang= e and then I got the white screen indicating an incompatible codec. So now = I know mocha is more finicky with codecs than AE. What is the best codec to= use with mocha? Looking for lossless, as it's a short clip. 10bit unco= mpressed QT .mov did not work either. JPG sequence did work fine in both, b= ut I'd like audio to make the round trip too if possible. Does it suppo= rt Avid DNS? 8bit YUV? .avi vs. .mov? Thanks,
TG


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:



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