Return-Path: Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.160] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5208244 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:14:09 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1378920421; l=14104; s=domk; d=mamoworld.com; h=In-Reply-To:To:References:Date:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type: From:X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH; bh=X6pVt++QfRstJ4+dJ1CHjOxUa6M=; b=tkmNbmWW6l6bBHSmZl+BX8Zg2t+Q2mpW9MdiVLMxQUcvydrrkhPJO7eU9Jo7Mn9hdfI 8+Qu5iOfL2mIxOf0k39I9cX6zYlDX8EERvmPUuxTfGT/BFd9e98pRDiAqa675VtoOrno/ 6eShiJUVBcESmVodZ0fzsQwdyPxQadGIe6s= X-RZG-AUTH: :JWICemClevKDgu8HjcNJMjRl593UXLPRxATGwvl0czvlKPvWKaNvvwX3g21XTw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from mathiasmac.fritz.box (p5DC65F54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.198.95.84]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 32.1 DYNA|AUTH) with (RC4-SHA encrypted) ESMTPA id z001f8p8BFockj for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:27:00 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathias_M=F6hl?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1C96CA6A-295A-4E98-9110-03A6B0D4B95F" Message-Id: <0B2694B8-44A5-4AEF-9998-25588280C28F@mamoworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Mocha AE CC frame import error Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 19:27:00 +0200 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) --Apple-Mail=_1C96CA6A-295A-4E98-9110-03A6B0D4B95F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I usually use tiff sequences. Here is what Imagineer Systems recommends: = http://www.imagineersystems.com/support/Documentation/supported-file-forma= ts Cheers, Mathias On 11.09.2013, at 19:19, Teddy Gage wrote: > That makes sense. Any reason for PNG over TIF? I thought TIF supported = additional bit depth and lossless?=20 >=20 > Also, it's not really about the audio, more that sometimes I don't = want the extra step of transcoding to a sequence if the rest of footage = is in another codec. I just tried DNxHD and it works great with mocha. I = don't mind having all my footage in this codec so if I need to track a = surprise new item I won't have to stop and wait for a render to = sequence. Anyway, thanks David. > -TG >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:56 AM, David Torno = wrote: > No point in having the audio round trip through a roto/track app. That = can always be added back in AE or your assembly tool of choice. >=20 > I always use PNG frame sequences for quick track work or DPX if I = really need to mess with the image a bit to see details, but mostly JPG = or PNG sequences to keep things fast. >=20 > David Torno > Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor > http://www.ghosttownmedia.com > O: 213.739.2290 > C: 818.391.6060 > --------------------- > http://www.sydefxink.com > http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com > http://mactex.blogspot.com >=20 > "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" > -Charles Field >=20 > On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: >=20 >> OK, looks like it didn't work in CS6 after all, it just imported the = right frame range and then I got the white screen indicating an = incompatible codec. So now I know mocha is more finicky with codecs than = AE. What is the best codec to use with mocha? Looking for lossless, as = it's a short clip. 10bit uncompressed QT .mov did not work either. JPG = sequence did work fine in both, but I'd like audio to make the round = trip too if possible. Does it support Avid DNS? 8bit YUV? .avi vs. .mov? = Thanks, >> TG >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >> Just went to use the new mocha AE included in CC and I can't import = any clips. The frame range for an imported clip is always 0 to 1 and I = can't change either value either by typing or sliders. very strange. = Then after the clip is "imported" it says "frame range is incorrect". = well no shit... >> This is using the "track in mocha" command from AE timeline. on a = win 7 64x pc. The clips are .mp4. However these clips will work fine and = load normally in the version of mocha AE included in CS6. Any idea = what's going on? bad prefs? some setting I switched? gnomes? >> -TG >>=20 >> --=20 >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Animator & Editor >> www.teddygage.com >> Brooklyn >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn mamoworld.com simplify your cgi dr. mathias m=F6hl marlow 52 , 18551 sagard, germany phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 info@mamoworld.com --Apple-Mail=_1C96CA6A-295A-4E98-9110-03A6B0D4B95F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I = usually use tiff sequences.

Here is what Imagineer = Systems recommends:

Cheers,
Mathias

On 11.09.2013, at 19:19, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> = wrote:

That makes sense. Any reason for PNG = over TIF? I thought TIF supported additional bit depth and lossless? =

    Also, it's not really about the audio, more = that sometimes I don't want the extra step of transcoding to a sequence = if the rest of footage is in another codec. I just tried DNxHD and it = works great with mocha. I don't mind having all my footage in this codec = so if I need to track a surprise new item I won't have to stop and wait = for a render to sequence. Anyway, thanks David.
-TG


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:56 AM, David Torno <torno@sydefxink.com> wrote:
No point in having the audio round trip through a = roto/track app. That can always be added back in AE or your assembly = tool of choice.

I always use PNG frame sequences for quick track = work or DPX if I really need to mess with the image a bit to see = details, but mostly JPG or PNG sequences to keep things = fast.

David Torno
Visual Effects Artist & Supervisor
---------------------
http://www.sydefxink.com
http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com

<= div>"The most useless day is that in which we do not = laugh"
-Charles Field

On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> = wrote:

OK, = looks like it didn't work in CS6 after all, it just imported the right = frame range and then I got the white screen indicating an incompatible = codec. So now I know mocha is more finicky with codecs than AE. What is = the best codec to use with mocha? Looking for lossless, as it's a short = clip. 10bit uncompressed QT .mov did not work either. JPG sequence did = work fine in both, but I'd like audio to make the round trip too if = possible. Does it support Avid DNS? 8bit YUV? .avi vs. .mov? Thanks,
TG


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
Just went to use the new mocha AE included in CC and I = can't import any clips. The frame range for an imported clip is always 0 = to 1 and I can't change either value either by typing or sliders. very = strange. Then after the clip is "imported" it says "frame range is = incorrect". well no shit...
  This is using the "track in mocha" command from AE timeline. on a = win 7 64x pc. The clips are .mp4. However these clips will work fine and = load normally in the version of mocha AE included in CS6. Any idea = what's going on? bad prefs? some setting I switched? gnomes?
-TG

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Brooklyn



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