Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog110.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.129] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with SMTP id 5209426 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:06:30 +0200 Received: from mail-ea0-f171.google.com ([209.85.215.171]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob110.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUjIhzFYWAXDG/kD5vr4I38xajVliPAjN@postini.com; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:19:24 UTC Received: by mail-ea0-f171.google.com with SMTP id n15so146321ead.2 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:19:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=OpzyJN7LiEuzixOZ23yOLXJT38CAVlFaSRUbg6pn8ko=; b=fxORgjYhqk+VoSw+eWEs/JMtTwOONTnLId4BlVc26FyOaeLweQTpmyreSaDX/cz2eV NJxhjMujklOXnGY6+/aR5w2uNx4e93jUgWS/tBnLvGJq+liy0E89xLyZlQLqmYjKlQVo nef85wNayigkkmeTUE0/R2/s7sYGAmrthxa/aF3eJVetWXmBRyBNb6ToIHWyZASHuDYR Mp9k/RFisZCWECNJsz15off6jZYN0MFe0tJ3suG57c2BfeIeutFbC42qdiKPo1LsY3Vr J7JofTwFHG6Mu0u2U6zcXwx1vPzi6wwpmqTLMBt50tJYGX+rO3ffahdBeMp/LsOwQjuD kH3g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnk2gaPM0m2QuLJ5yUQOvddXQMz/fYzPCGG1k/RXDaP2beVsNl7VvtkAaD0N4TawUZXBfpfErE+ci+PIzsQWglUFo+4dORgsQFtsmuFhrqsH5mR5BmTgvh8jDOarYzqBy8AbrPYWB8rDuoDop/u4pIk2/g2Xkx8398QWtgNztH63YEfpAg= X-Received: by 10.15.45.8 with SMTP id a8mr12405645eew.1.1379017163934; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.15.45.8 with SMTP id a8mr12405631eew.1.1379017163845; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.2.19] (ip4da695fc.direct-adsl.nl. [77.166.149.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f49sm8852781eec.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7B172E83-6720-4B80-BFDF-CFE2588279B3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8371C621-B0F8-4AD4-84CA-F7DA31C01478@imagineersystems.com> Cc: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B143) From: Ross Shain Subject: Re: [AE] How to handle complete obstruction of tracking object in mocha Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:19:23 +0200 To: After Effects Mail List --Apple-Mail-7B172E83-6720-4B80-BFDF-CFE2588279B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are a couple mocha techniques to deal with tracking totally obscured a= reas: 1. As Eric suggested, track up until the frame where it goes off, stop, move= your shape to any area where the motion is similar to the motion of the pla= ne you are tracking. Track those frames until your original object comes bac= k to frame, stop and move search area back. The point here is that animating= the search area does not throw off the surface.=20 2. Another method is to track until it goes off, them stop and skip the area= where the track is obscured. Skip ahead to area where object reappears and p= ick up the track again. Next, enable manual surface which displaces ALL surf= ace keyframes. Edit these to delete some unnecessary in betweens. You could a= lternately use AE for the keyframe adjustment. Hope this helps. If you want to post the shot, we are happy to take a look.= =20 Best, Ross Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Hello, I have a very difficult tracking shot of a car that gets completely= obscured by a barrier for several frames during a tracking sequence, throwi= ng off the mocha tracking data. This happens about six times during the shot= . Now i could make make seven different tracking layers (ie a new layer betw= een barriers each time) but this is tedious and makes syncing up the track d= ata in ae very time consuming. Id prefer to do it all on one layer. Do I swi= tch to a manual track during obstruction? Even adjusttrack cannot seem to co= mpensate, as the entire object is obscured. Trying to track the barriers sep= arately to exclude from the search area doesnt work very well either. Are th= ere any tutorials about this? What would be the best way to approach this? M= any thanks, > TG >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Animator & Editor > www.teddygage.com > Brooklyn >=20 --Apple-Mail-7B172E83-6720-4B80-BFDF-CFE2588279B3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There are a couple mocha techniques to= deal with tracking totally obscured areas:

1. As E= ric suggested, track up until the frame where it goes off, stop, move your s= hape to any area where the motion is similar to the motion of the plane you a= re tracking. Track those frames until your original object comes back to fra= me, stop and move search area back. The point here is that animating the sea= rch area does not throw off the surface. 

2. A= nother method is to track until it goes off, them stop and skip the area whe= re the track is obscured. Skip ahead to area where object reappears and pick= up the track again. Next, enable manual surface which displaces ALL surface= keyframes. Edit these to delete some unnecessary in betweens. You could alt= ernately use AE for the keyframe adjustment.

Hope t= his helps. If you want to post the shot,  we are happy to take a look.&= nbsp;
Best,
Ross



Sent f= rom my iPhone

On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, I have a very difficult tr= acking shot of a car that gets completely obscured by a barrier for several&= nbsp;frames during a tracking sequence, throwing off the mocha tracking data= . This happens about six times during the shot. Now i could make make seven d= ifferent tracking layers (ie a new layer between barriers each time) but thi= s is tedious and makes syncing up the track data in ae very time consuming. I= d prefer to do it all on one layer. Do I switch to a manual track durin= g obstruction? Even adjusttrack cannot seem to compensate, as the entire obj= ect is obscured. Trying to track the barriers separately to exclude fro= m the search area doesnt work very well either. Are there any tutorials= about this? What would be the best way to approach this? Many thanks,
TG


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www.teddygage.com
Brooklyn

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