Return-Path: Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.225] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5246221 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 04:14:08 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsBAD0NVlI6BjM8/2dsb2JhbAANSgMWgi18hRiqKoliiEaBN4MZAQEBAwF+CwsNCy5XBhOIABKlepMwjzUXEYMOgQQDkVuCS4UMhS+OWw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,1068,1371052800"; d="scan'208,217";a="161150685" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.1.1.5]) ([58.6.51.60]) by icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 10 Oct 2013 10:14:44 +0800 From: Robert Davidson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--662841456 Subject: Re: [AE] Dual Mono Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:14:44 +1100 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-5--662841456 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes you can in the project window, but it is an annoying bug that fcp = always sets animation movies as upper field. On 10/10/2013, at 1:07 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > FCP7? You can set field order in the Properties window. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Oct 9, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote: >=20 >> OK another fcp bug. >> I find fcp always interprets animation movies as upper field first = not as lower field (as set in AE), or progressive. >> Rob >>=20 >> On 10/10/2013, at 12:24 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>=20 >>> Nope, audio is the same it's just that FCP say's dual mono instead = of stereo. >>>=20 >>> Phil >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>=20 >>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>=20 >>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: >>>=20 >>>> So are the waveforms different in the AE rendered file? >>>> Rob >>>> On 10/10/2013, at 12:12 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> The original file is Stereo in FCP and the waveforms are as = expected. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Phil >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Try importing the original QT into FCP and see how the audio is = interpreted. >>>>>> Also compare the waveform on each track in the fcp sequence. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Cheers, Rob >>>>>> On 10/10/2013, at 11:55 AM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I am having a very weird issue in both CS5.5 and CC. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> If I import a QT with audio into AE then render it out I am = getting a weird audio issue. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> It sounds fine but when I import it into Final Cut it is seen as = Dual Mono instead of Stereo. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> AE says it is stereo, as to does QuickTime but FCP always says = Dual Mono. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Usually we would do a layback in Final Cut but we are versioning = a bunch of spots and want to avoid the extra step. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I found this thread on Creative Cow that sounds like the same = issue. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/2/1014215 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Robert Davidson >>>>>> Multimedia Specialist >>>>>> 0419 211175 >>>>>> robdav@ozemail.com.au >>>>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Robert Davidson >>>> Multimedia Specialist >>>> 0419 211175 >>>> robdav@ozemail.com.au >>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> Robert Davidson >> Multimedia Specialist >> 0419 211175 >> robdav@ozemail.com.au >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 Robert Davidson Multimedia Specialist 0419 211175 robdav@ozemail.com.au http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html --Apple-Mail-5--662841456 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Yes = you can in the project window, but it is an annoying bug that fcp always = sets animation movies as upper field.

On 10/10/2013, = at 1:07 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:

FCP7?  You can set field = order in the Properties = window.



On Oct 9, 2013, = at 8:32 PM, Robert Davidson <robdav@ozemail.com.au> = wrote:

OK another fcp = bug.
I find fcp always interprets animation movies as upper field = first not as lower field (as set in AE), or = progressive.
Rob

On 10/10/2013, at = 12:24 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

Nope, audio is the same it's = just that FCP say's dual mono instead of = stereo.

Phil


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On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote:

So are the waveforms = different in the AE rendered file?
Rob
On 10/10/2013, = at 12:12 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

The original file is Stereo in = FCP and the waveforms are as = expected.

Phil


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On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote:

Try importing the = original QT into FCP and see how the audio is interpreted.
Also = compare the waveform on each track in the fcp = sequence.

Cheers, Rob
On = 10/10/2013, at 11:55 AM, Phil Spitler wrote:

I am having a very weird issue = in both CS5.5 and CC.

If I import a QT with audio = into AE then render it out I am getting a weird audio = issue.

It sounds fine but when I import it into = Final Cut it is seen as Dual Mono instead of = Stereo.

AE says it is stereo, as to does = QuickTime but FCP always says Dual = Mono.

Usually we would do a layback in Final = Cut but we are versioning a bunch of spots and want to avoid the extra = step.

I found this thread on Creative Cow that = sounds like the same issue.



A= ny = ideas?

Cheers.

Phil




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