Return-Path: Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net ([207.145.128.243] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5246251 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:12:26 +0200 Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05371EE5036 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 23:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30353 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2013 03:13:05 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 14299, pid: 11136, t: 3.6125s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from c-67-185-28-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net (HELO [192.168.1.125]) (albion@[67.185.28.214]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Oct 2013 03:13:01 -0000 From: James Culbertson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9960C715-922F-4180-9CBA-F0A6391D6933" Subject: Re: [AE] Dual Mono Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 20:12:53 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: <5A965E31-547C-4333-9FB5-E616217A0345@speakeasy.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail6.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 --Apple-Mail=_9960C715-922F-4180-9CBA-F0A6391D6933 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Animation codec is pretty antiquated these days. It has problems with = color shifts and all sorts of things. Fortunately, I have not received = it as an intermediate for perhaps 5 years. ProRes 4444 is a much more efficient choice. James On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: > Yes you can in the project window, but it is an annoying bug that fcp = always sets animation movies as upper field. >=20 > On 10/10/2013, at 1:07 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >=20 >> FCP7? You can set field order in the Properties window. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Oct 9, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote: >>=20 >>> OK another fcp bug. >>> I find fcp always interprets animation movies as upper field first = not as lower field (as set in AE), or progressive. >>> Rob >>>=20 >>> On 10/10/2013, at 12:24 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Nope, audio is the same it's just that FCP say's dual mono instead = of stereo. >>>>=20 >>>> Phil >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>=20 >>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>=20 >>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> So are the waveforms different in the AE rendered file? >>>>> Rob >>>>> On 10/10/2013, at 12:12 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> The original file is Stereo in FCP and the waveforms are as = expected. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Try importing the original QT into FCP and see how the audio is = interpreted. >>>>>>> Also compare the waveform on each track in the fcp sequence. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Cheers, Rob >>>>>>> On 10/10/2013, at 11:55 AM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I am having a very weird issue in both CS5.5 and CC. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> If I import a QT with audio into AE then render it out I am = getting a weird audio issue. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> It sounds fine but when I import it into Final Cut it is seen = as Dual Mono instead of Stereo. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> AE says it is stereo, as to does QuickTime but FCP always says = Dual Mono. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Usually we would do a layback in Final Cut but we are = versioning a bunch of spots and want to avoid the extra step. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I found this thread on Creative Cow that sounds like the same = issue. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/2/1014215 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t = : 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Robert Davidson >>>>>>> Multimedia Specialist >>>>>>> 0419 211175 >>>>>>> robdav@ozemail.com.au >>>>>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Robert Davidson >>>>> Multimedia Specialist >>>>> 0419 211175 >>>>> robdav@ozemail.com.au >>>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Robert Davidson >>> Multimedia Specialist >>> 0419 211175 >>> robdav@ozemail.com.au >>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 > Robert Davidson > Multimedia Specialist > 0419 211175 > robdav@ozemail.com.au > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~robdav/SiteRD/Welcome.html >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_9960C715-922F-4180-9CBA-F0A6391D6933 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Yes you can in the project = window, but it is an annoying bug that fcp always sets animation movies = as upper field.

On 10/10/2013, at 1:07 PM, Jim Curtis = wrote:

FCP7? =  You can set field order in the Properties = window.



On Oct 9, 2013, = at 8:32 PM, Robert Davidson <robdav@ozemail.com.au> = wrote:

OK another fcp = bug.
I find fcp always interprets animation movies as upper field = first not as lower field (as set in AE), or = progressive.
Rob

On 10/10/2013, at = 12:24 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

Nope, audio is the same it's = just that FCP say's dual mono instead of = stereo.

Phil


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On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote:

So are the waveforms = different in the AE rendered file?
Rob
On 10/10/2013, = at 12:12 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

The original file is Stereo in = FCP and the waveforms are as = expected.

Phil


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On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote:

Try importing the = original QT into FCP and see how the audio is interpreted.
Also = compare the waveform on each track in the fcp = sequence.

Cheers, Rob
On = 10/10/2013, at 11:55 AM, Phil Spitler wrote:

I am having a very weird issue = in both CS5.5 and CC.

If I import a QT with audio = into AE then render it out I am getting a weird audio = issue.

It sounds fine but when I import it into = Final Cut it is seen as Dual Mono instead of = Stereo.

AE says it is stereo, as to does = QuickTime but FCP always says Dual = Mono.

Usually we would do a layback in Final = Cut but we are versioning a bunch of spots and want to avoid the extra = step.

I found this thread on Creative Cow that = sounds like the same issue.



A= ny = ideas?

Cheers.

Phil




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