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([2601:9:7bc0:3d:e4fc:9612:107a:7689]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xv2sm50397131pbb.39.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 22:13:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Spitler Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E2F07820-3975-4F9B-93E6-5C08B20E0BAB" Subject: Re: [AE] Dual Mono Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 22:13:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: "After Effects Mail List" References: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_E2F07820-3975-4F9B-93E6-5C08B20E0BAB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Agreed, we can fix in FCP no problem but the plan is not to put them = back into aFCP. We had our files kicked back from the network distributor due to them = being dual mono instead of stereo and we are not in a position to argue = or tell them to change their workflow. We need to deliver stereo. Cheers. Phil Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 Website | Facebook | LinkedIn On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jonathan wrote: > I've found something similar with ProRes rendered out of AE and = imported into FCP 7. It's not consist, however. Sometimes it comes in = upper and sometime progressive. >=20 > Apologies if I'm stating the obvious and perhaps missing the point, = but by selecting the two mono tracks in FCP 7 and hitting opt-L, you = create a stereo pair. Works in the other direction, too. >=20 > Jonathan >=20 > JONATHAN PENZNER > VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN >=20 > | STUDIO 626 345-0285 | > | CELL 818 321-2890 | >=20 > sundancerealtime@me.com >=20 >=20 >> On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: >>=20 >>> Yes you can in the project window, but it is an annoying bug that = fcp always sets animation movies as upper field. >>>=20 >>> On 10/10/2013, at 1:07 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >>>=20 >>>> FCP7? You can set field order in the Properties window. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> OK another fcp bug. >>>>> I find fcp always interprets animation movies as upper field first = not as lower field (as set in AE), or progressive. >>>>> Rob >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 10/10/2013, at 12:24 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Nope, audio is the same it's just that FCP say's dual mono = instead of stereo. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t : = 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> So are the waveforms different in the AE rendered file? >>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>> On 10/10/2013, at 12:12 PM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> The original file is Stereo in FCP and the waveforms are as = expected. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Phil Spitler | Creative Technologist | Bonfire Labs | t = : 415.394.8200 m : 415.571.3139 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Website | Facebook | LinkedIn >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Davidson wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Try importing the original QT into FCP and see how the audio = is interpreted. >>>>>>>>> Also compare the waveform on each track in the fcp sequence. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Cheers, Rob >>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2013, at 11:55 AM, Phil Spitler wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I am having a very weird issue in both CS5.5 and CC. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> If I import a QT with audio into AE then render it out I am = getting a weird audio issue. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> It sounds fine but when I import it into Final Cut it is seen = as Dual Mono instead of Stereo. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> AE says it is stereo, as to does QuickTime but FCP always = says Dual Mono. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Usually we would do a layback in Final Cut but we are = versioning a bunch of spots and want to avoid the extra step. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I found this thread on Creative Cow that sounds like the same = issue. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/2/1014215 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas? >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Cheers. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Phil >=20 --Apple-Mail=_E2F07820-3975-4F9B-93E6-5C08B20E0BAB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 signature1 Phil = Spitler  |  Creative Technologist   |  Bonfire Labs  |  t : 415.394.8200  m : = 415.571.3139

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On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Jonathan wrote:

I've found something = similar with ProRes rendered out of AE and imported into FCP 7. It's not = consist, however. Sometimes it comes in upper and sometime = progressive.

Apologies if I'm stating the = obvious and perhaps missing the point, but by selecting the two mono = tracks in FCP 7 and hitting opt-L, you create a stereo pair. Works in = the other direction, = too.

Jonathan

VIDEO EDITING =95 MOTION = GRAPHICS =95 DESIGN

| STUDIO      626 = 345-0285 |
 CELL   =         818 = 321-2890 |



Yes you can in the project = window, but it is an annoying bug that fcp always sets animation movies = as upper field.

On 10/10/2013, at 1:07 PM, Jim Curtis = wrote:

FCP7? =  You can set field order in the Properties = window.



On Oct 9, 2013, = at 8:32 PM, Robert Davidson <robdav@ozemail.com.au> = wrote:

OK another fcp = bug.
I find fcp always interprets animation movies as upper field = first not as lower field (as set in AE), or = progressive.
Rob

On 10/10/2013, at = 12:24 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

Nope, audio is the same it's = just that FCP say's dual mono instead of = stereo.

Phil


signature1 Phil = Spitler  |  Creative Technologist   |  Bonfire Labs  |  t : 415.394.8200  m : = 415.571.3139

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On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote:

So are the waveforms = different in the AE rendered file?
Rob
On 10/10/2013, = at 12:12 PM, Phil Spitler wrote:

The original file is Stereo in = FCP and the waveforms are as = expected.

Phil


signature1 Phil = Spitler  |  Creative Technologist   |  Bonfire Labs  |  t : 415.394.8200  m : = 415.571.3139

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On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Davidson = wrote:

Try importing the = original QT into FCP and see how the audio is interpreted.
Also = compare the waveform on each track in the fcp = sequence.

Cheers, Rob
On = 10/10/2013, at 11:55 AM, Phil Spitler wrote:

I am having a very weird issue = in both CS5.5 and CC.

If I import a QT with audio = into AE then render it out I am getting a weird audio = issue.

It sounds fine but when I import it into = Final Cut it is seen as Dual Mono instead of = Stereo.

AE says it is stereo, as to does = QuickTime but FCP always says Dual = Mono.

Usually we would do a layback in Final = Cut but we are versioning a bunch of spots and want to avoid the extra = step.

I found this thread on Creative Cow that = sounds like the same issue.



A= ny = ideas?

Cheers.

Phil
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