Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com ([209.85.223.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5248856 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 22:23:14 +0200 Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id to1so6419548ieb.9 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:23:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=cQbHRoj/RR2JwVkBsjnT8WAdxzULrzrdgvwRF0CkeRQ=; b=VS6sJKDFPzLH2fDwV3AImTK0wUqj1K6gJ6FQNgYAbCWufoiyIxDgdEJ3IumCRLGxXM vFSiGN+cjf7KykE8DOXN90sCzxScA7o6yAE+/Nx+5DG38KRBI6i1DjF7jFXhEvvKAX+K HPUd1rENRfN+qmajVmHhuZXsRDbr428ajpeIQ0McozHcCW4i+c/2DJhMi70prg+d4335 RKLTdjd+U1IDapI/+LFOlmIvjJV7lDDXZrIeCMVFjeslqw7sF1SulnSeWI3zcqtni/Od mnEA3bU74PGBiFUddhnBR9j2acz+K95IfW3bFWUSJqHcPHzsXnaCiNXFlGqQSRATfz2i 7jqQ== X-Received: by 10.50.130.106 with SMTP id od10mr27151igb.1.1381436634297; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:23:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.178.35 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:23:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:23:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Rendering Issue To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b414560ddf8fd04e868c789 --047d7b414560ddf8fd04e868c789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Greg, Appreciate, still great info. So, the photojpeg, I believe he mentions that as one of his transcoding options. That renders out stills right, which would be a huge number. Is that typically zipped or how is it normally presented to customer? Eric On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > Welp... Looks like it won't work.. Protools seems to be very finicky.. > > http://randycoppinger.com/2012/06/13/protools-and-h264-video/ > > Basically variable bit-rate of H.264 and also the AAC audio codec can > really mess with the timeline / preview in ProTools.. it's not "Frame > Accurate" as a codec. > > Anyway.. it looks like you'll have to re-encode... my personal preference > for a really small file (compared to others) is PhotoJPEG set to 98% > quality.. (it looks stunningly uncompressed, and takes a fraction of the > size something like animation or Motion JPEG might take) > > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < > kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I also found this, posted by Tood about 3 years ago. >> >> http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/905220 >> >> He seems to say that changing the extension will not actually work while >> also confirming my other belief that the file size will jump. >> >> Eric >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Steve Oakley wrote: >> >>> in the export dialog, Video tab, Codec is the first selection. rest of >>> the panel changes to suit codec... and you have to scroll the panel to see >>> all the options. >>> >>> S >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I hope someone can help me quickly here. I am rendering a 1 hr 11 >>> minute film in just 1280x720 for use for audio score and the sound guy had >>> wanted an H264 .mov file. >>> >>> In Adobe Premiere, I don't have an option to select H264 and then also >>> select .mov anywhere so I had to go H264 .mp4. For whatever reason, he >>> can't transcode to some other format he needs. I'm a bit baffled by it. >>> >>> I know if I select Quicktime in the dropdown instead of H264, it WILL be >>> a .mov, however the file size usually climbs tremendously. He informed me >>> that Quicktime is a wrapper but I have no way to select H264 with a .mov >>> extension that I can see. Can some direct me how to do this? >>> >>> Right now, H264, .mp4, 1280x720 at min 3 bits/8 bits, gives me a 1.6GB >>> file and I need it about the same for online file transfer. >>> >>> Also, this takes me about 5 hrs to render. My native file in Premiere >>> is about 14 individual DNxHD clips. Is that typical or is there some "use >>> native codec" that he mentioned to reduce time? >>> >>> Appreciate the help. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> -- >>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>> *443.206.1347 >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com* >>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* >>> * * >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >> *443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com* >> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* >> * * >> > > > > -- > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > -- *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347 www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com* *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/* * * --047d7b414560ddf8fd04e868c789 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg,
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Appreciate, still great= info.=A0 So, the photojpeg, I believe he mentions that as one of his trans= coding options.=A0 That renders out stills right, which would be a huge num= ber.=A0 Is that typically zipped or how is it normally presented to custome= r?
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Eric
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at= 4:17 PM, Greg Balint <delrazoraelist@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Welp... Looks like it won&#= 39;t work.. =A0Protools seems to be very finicky..=A0

http://randycoppinger.com/2012/06/13/protools-and-h264-video= /

Basically variable bit-rate of H.264 and also the= AAC audio codec can really mess with the timeline / preview in ProTools.. = it's not "Frame Accurate" as a codec.

Anyway.. it looks like you'll have to re-encode... my personal pre= ference for a really small file (compared to others) is PhotoJPEG set to 98= % quality.. (it looks stunningly uncompressed, and takes a fraction of the = size something like animation or Motion JPEG might take)




On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <kirkproductions@gmail.com> wrote:
I also found this, posted by Tood ab= out 3 years ago.
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He seems to say that changing the extension will not actually work while al= so confirming my other belief that the file size will jump.
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Eric


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com> wrote:
in the export dialog, Video tab, Codec = is the first selection. rest of the panel changes to suit codec... and you = have to scroll the panel to see all the options.

S


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Hello,
=A0
I hope someone can help me quickly here.=A0 = I am rendering a 1 hr 11 minute film in just 1280x720 for use for audio sco= re and the sound guy had wanted an H264 .mov file.
=A0
In Adobe Premiere, I don't have an option to select = H264 and then also select .mov anywhere so I had to go H264 .mp4.=A0 For wh= atever reason, he can't transcode to some other format he needs.=A0 I&#= 39;m a bit baffled by it.
=A0
I know if I select Quicktime in the dropdown instead of = H264, it WILL be a .mov, however the file size usually climbs tremendously.= =A0 He informed me that Quicktime is a wrapper but I have no way to select = H264 with a .mov extension that I can see.=A0 Can some direct me how to do = this?
=A0
Right now, H264, .mp4, 1280x720 at min 3 bits/8 bits, gi= ves me a 1.6GB file and I need it about the same for online file transfer.<= /div>
=A0
Also, this takes me about 5 hrs to render.=A0 My na= tive file in Premiere is about 14 individual DNxHD clips.=A0 Is that typica= l or is there some "use native codec" that he mentioned to reduce= time?
=A0
Appreciate the help.
=A0
Eric<= font color=3D"#888888">

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-- 
///Greg Bal=
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//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.=
514.4839
delRAZOR.com/



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