Return-Path: Received: from [107.14.166.225] (HELO cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5249962 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 22:35:18 +0200 Return-Path: Received: from [75.185.247.98] ([75.185.247.98:51537] helo=[192.168.0.102]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id BF/C0-01315-13168525; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:36:02 +0000 Message-ID: <5258612E.9010002@woh.rr.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:35:58 -0400 From: Frank Wylie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Levels vs Curves render times References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050400070302080103090607" X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050400070302080103090607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Never said copy it, I said BUY it, but the point is taken... Frank Wylie Library of Congress Timer/grader Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. On 10/11/2013 4:34 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > > Please, do not answer with "copy Frischluft Curves". > > We really need a detailed, prioritized list of the things that you > want in our Curves effect. > > If that means that you write a detailed, ordered list of things that > are all in the Frischluft plug-in, that's legitimate and useful. > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Frank Wylie > wrote: > > Todd, > > I'd just negotiate the purchase of Frishluft Curves and put it in the > AE package as default! ;) > > http://www.frischluft.com/curves/ > > Seriously, I used this plugin extensively in color grading about 6 > digital restorations and it's a lifesaver in dealing with weird, > discontinuous gamut problems and for exact color matching problems. > > It has a wonderful, customizable interface with hugely expandable > curves to make very fine grained adjustments. > > Even has a histogram overlay. > > Can't say enough good things about the plugin... > > Frank Wylie > Library of Congress > Timer/grader > > Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. > > > > > On 10/11/2013 3:22 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote: > > re-awakening a dormant thread: > > If we were to spend time improving the Curves effect, what would be > the changes that you'd want to see? Be as specific as possible, and > list things in your priority order. Anything in the Curves effect is > fair game for this conversation, including user interface, performance > (as noted by Chris below), and additional features. > > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv > ] On Behalf Of > Chris Zwar > Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013 18:50 > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: [AE] Levels vs Curves render times > > Hi all, > > I was surprised by something a work colleague encountered this week. I > didn't see the project, but I believe it was quite long, with many > layers of > video in it. > When he initially went to render it it looked like being a 48 hour > render (this > is after the render has been going for several hours). This was too > long, and > he guessed that the many instances of the curves plugin were slowing > everything down. He stopped the render and went through the project and > replaced all the curves plugins with levels instead, to get the same > effect. > Then the entire project rendered in about 2 hours. > That's a massive difference in speed - this is AE v5, so not something > affected > by cache. > I can understand that curves may be slightly slower to render than > levels - > but I would never have expected such a massive difference. And my > colleague is something of an AE guru and said he had experienced this > before, and that he's always found curves to be a slow plugin to > render. I'd > never really noticed... > Any thoughts? > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > --------------050400070302080103090607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Never said copy it, I said BUY it, but the point is taken...

Frank Wylie
Library of Congress
Timer/grader

Disclaimer:  My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.

On 10/11/2013 4:34 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote:

Please, do not answer with “copy Frischluft Curves”.

 

We really need a detailed, prioritized list of the things that you want in our Curves effect.

 

If that means that you write a detailed, ordered list of things that are all in the Frischluft plug-in, that’s legitimate and useful.

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Frank Wylie <sfwylie@woh.rr.com> wrote:

Todd,

I'd just negotiate the purchase of Frishluft Curves and put it in the AE package as default!  ;)

http://www.frischluft.com/curves/

Seriously, I used this plugin extensively in color grading about 6 digital restorations and it's a lifesaver in dealing with weird, discontinuous gamut problems and for exact color matching problems.

It has a wonderful, customizable interface with hugely expandable curves to make very fine grained adjustments.

Even has a histogram overlay.

Can't say enough good things about the plugin...

Frank Wylie
Library of Congress
Timer/grader

Disclaimer:  My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.




On 10/11/2013 3:22 PM, Todd Kopriva wrote:

re-awakening a dormant thread:

If we were to spend time improving the Curves effect, what would be the changes that you'd want to see? Be as specific as possible, and list things in your priority order. Anything in the Curves effect is fair game for this conversation, including user interface, performance (as noted by Chris below), and additional features.

-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] On Behalf Of
Chris Zwar
Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013 18:50
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: [AE] Levels vs Curves render times

Hi all,

I was surprised by something a work colleague encountered this week.  I
didn't see the project, but I believe it was quite long, with many layers of
video in it.
When he initially went to render it it looked like being a 48 hour render (this
is after the render has been going for several hours).  This was too long, and
he guessed that the many instances of the curves plugin were slowing
everything down.  He stopped the render and went through the project and
replaced all the curves plugins with levels instead, to get the same effect.
Then the entire project rendered in about 2 hours.
That's a massive difference in speed - this is AE v5, so not something affected
by cache.
I can understand that curves may be slightly slower to render than levels -
but I would never have expected such a massive difference.  And my
colleague is something of an AE guru and said he had experienced this
before, and that he's always found curves to be a slow plugin to render.  I'd
never really noticed...
Any thoughts?


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