Return-Path: Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.220.45] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5250543 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:15:32 +0200 Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id rd3so5602562pab.32 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SOwiVejNIKtXIA2N/8XusunClzVere3VUG9w/QLOFSU=; b=Iwk5iCkVVvFN1HBhLbEgxd5lWe1je+CKkWk96+QbyqcQUQVXKkpeDwRPHVDH+myxEK QVwq+6dTuxkYwqOjPDhzUNhsiU9NvDhVtUe1f8OFOatvDAaM5N5IZm/wiwG8wCD+N9E3 uJHNAGEIK5Ut7PRbKwEq4rhav7ThbMhrSbp2K8AxwCfc+hLhg88LjQrQqPoFzye+5hgY xODbHk2cJMfOAnwRiZagqtAcsbvtaMehuL96+QGXTOY815mKwVghiGLjkpl8ptDhPeLt TRl4R2PADhAh6Mm4G65182FKX3dyp7Ayyis7+UnSLGREMBj8nJ+cEnoQ3kvZ57Xee52m Z2qg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl/15dOon8PFA7p/2XShyCYnkei94iPeURM/ODW9qylSge5pOv2NwnAZEgq4nW/f5fJNEcs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.67.14.67 with SMTP id fe3mr27248668pad.134.1381580175304; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.196.106 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.196.106 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:16:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Levels vs Curves render times From: Robert Kjettrup To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15b2a594061d04e88a3394 --047d7b15b2a594061d04e88a3394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have sent most of the following to the AE 'make a wish' report before, but now I just got around to make it a prioritised list :-) 1. Make the curve window resizable, so it always fits the effect panels width. 2. All channel curves viewable at the same time 3. Draw an indicator on the curve that shows the value of comp image under the mouse cursor 4. Every point on a curve should have numercial values that you should be able to enter manually. 5. Make it possible to also use bezier curves in the curve interface with same shortcuts to break an modify the points like regular AE masks. It should be an additonal input not a replacement of the current curve point input 6. Make buttons in the effect to change between the different channels instead of the current slow dropdown method. Shortcut keys too. 7. Histogram in the curve display, before and after curve adjustment 8. Button to invert the curve to reverse a former curve adjustment if needed 9. A new curves update should be developed to be implemented in Premiere and Speedgrade with the same controls. 10. Two overlay grid pattern sizes like in PS. 11. Luma channel mode, in addition to the current RGB, R, G, B and Alpha. 12. The "direct image manipulator" mode from PS and Lightroom is quite nice, and more precise than "guessing" what point on the curve you have to change to change a wanted value. 13. A saturation channel curve 14. A Hue channel curve (should probably be a horisontal line instead of a diagonal) 15. Have a subtle color gradient in the background of the curves grid to make it easier for users not familiar with curves on what adjustments will do to the colors. See the Avid MC color corrector for inspiration, just make it a bit more subtle and a toggle view mode. 16. A floating popup display that show all the channels beside each other. This display should be moveable and resizable, maybe with a custom transparency option. Clicking outside the dialog, or pressing ESC should automaticly close the display so it is quick to get out of. Take a look at the popup curves display in DaVinci Resolve for inspiration, just make it better and more customizable. This popup display could be used for more effects, like implementing the various Speedgrade color tools native in AE. 17. Add the parametic curve parameters from Lightroom along with the "direct image manipulator" to make curves easier for users not comfortable with the points in the curve UI 18. Remove the sketching method and loading and saving of .ACV files if this is holding back useful updates. This should just be used in a "legacy curves" effect, the current effect :-) Robert Den 12/10/2013 09.32 skrev "Jarle Leirpoll" : > Steal the RGB Curves effect from Premiere Pro - It's awesome, because it > can > be scaled to a large size, and we see all four curves at the same time! > Then > add a Histogram and a Saturation slider, and we have an all-purpose color > corrector. :-) Share this new effect with the Premiere Pro team and make > sure it travels safely between the apps. :-) > > /jarle > > --------------------- > Todd Wrote: > If we were to spend time improving the Curves effect, what would be the > changes that you'd want to see? Be as specific as possible, and list things > in your priority order. Anything in the Curves effect is fair game for this > conversation, including user interface, performance (as noted by Chris > below), and additional features. > > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --047d7b15b2a594061d04e88a3394 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have sent most of the following to the AE 'make a wish= ' report before, but now I just got around to make it a prioritised lis= t :-)

1. Make the curve window resizable, so it always fits the ef= fect panels width.

2. All channel curves viewable at the same time

3. Draw an indicator on the curve that shows the value of co= mp image under the mouse cursor

4. Every point on a curve should have numercial values that = you should be able to enter manually.

5. Make it possible to also use bezier curves in the curve i= nterface with same shortcuts to break an modify the points like regular AE = masks. It should be an additonal input not a replacement of the current cur= ve point input

6. Make buttons in the effect to change between the differen= t channels instead of the current slow dropdown method. Shortcut keys too.<= /p>

7. Histogram in the curve display, before and after curve ad= justment

8. Button to invert the curve to reverse a former curve adju= stment if needed

9. A new curves update should be developed to be implemented= in Premiere and Speedgrade with the same controls.

10. Two overlay grid pattern sizes like in PS.

11. Luma channel mode, in addition to the current RGB, R, G,= B and Alpha.

12. The "direct image manipulator" mode from PS an= d Lightroom is quite nice, and more precise than "guessing" what = point on the curve you have to change to change a wanted value.

13. A saturation channel curve

14. A Hue channel curve (should probably be a horisontal lin= e instead of a diagonal)

15. Have a subtle color gradient in the background of the cu= rves grid to make it easier for users not familiar with curves on what adju= stments will do to the colors. See the Avid MC color corrector for inspirat= ion, just make it a bit more subtle and a toggle view mode.

16. A floating popup display that show all the channels besi= de each other. This display should be moveable and resizable, maybe with a = custom transparency option. Clicking outside the dialog, or pressing ESC sh= ould automaticly close the display so it is quick to get out of. Take a loo= k at the popup curves display in DaVinci Resolve for inspiration, just make= it better and more customizable. This popup display could be used for more= effects, like implementing the various Speedgrade color tools native in AE= .

17. Add the parametic curve parameters from Lightroom along = with the "direct image manipulator" to make curves easier for use= rs not comfortable with the points in the curve UI

18. Remove the sketching method and loading and saving of .A= CV files if this is holding back useful updates. This should just be used i= n a "legacy curves" effect, the current effect :-)

Robert

Den 12/10/2013 09.32 skrev "Jarle Leirpoll&= quot; <leirpoll@online.no>:=
Steal the RGB Curves effect from Premiere Pro - It's awesome, because i= t can
be scaled to a large size, and we see all four curves at the same time! The= n
add a Histogram and a Saturation slider, and we have an all-purpose color corrector. :-) Share this new effect with the Premiere Pro team and make sure it travels safely between the apps. :-)

/jarle

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Todd Wrote:
If we were to spend time improving the Curves effect, what would be the
changes that you'd want to see? Be as specific as possible, and list th= ings
in your priority order. Anything in the Curves effect is fair game for this=
conversation, including user interface, performance (as noted by Chris
below), and additional features.



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