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From: Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:43:58 -0400
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Subject: 3D interactions between Element 3D & CC raytrace objects?
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     Well I find myself having to build some quick and dirty 3D
infographics and I'm contemplating my options right now. Basically I have 3
options: Use AE native raytracing, Use C4D plugin, or use element 3D / C4D
in combination. I have to be able to change this on the fly easily, and
long renders are not really an option. I have a GTX Titan so raytracing is
actually quite fast. Having played around with each one for a bit, I was
wondering whether it was possible to use Element 3D in conjunction with
native 3d objects. It does seem there is no interaction between 3d elements
created in AE and imported objects in the element 3D plugin, unless I'm
missing something. For example 3D intersections are not calculated, the
Element elements are either on top or behind the 3d layers depending on
layer stack order.

Ironically, the client is also demanding some transparency / refractive
elements as well, so I think right now my best option is to build it
entirely in AE CC. My only issue is the fact I need a beveled cylinder that
interacts with the shadows and refraction, and I can only create a
semi-curved plane with the rudimentary geometry controls. And the cylinder
would be capless (although I could create one.) I'd prefer not to create
the animation completely in C4d as changes would be faster within AE's
keyframe controls. Any ideas?

Thanks!
TG

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VFX & Motion Graphic artist
NEW - teddygage.com <http://www.teddygage.com>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>=A0=A0=A0=A0 Well I find myself having to b=
uild some quick and dirty 3D infographics and I&#39;m contemplating my opti=
ons right now. Basically I have 3 options: Use AE native raytracing, Use C4=
D plugin, or use element 3D / C4D in combination. I have to be able to chan=
ge this on the fly easily, and long renders are not really an option. I hav=
e a GTX Titan so raytracing is actually quite fast. Having played around wi=
th each one for a bit, I was wondering whether it was possible to use Eleme=
nt 3D in conjunction with native 3d objects. It does seem there is no inter=
action between 3d elements created in AE and imported objects in the elemen=
t 3D plugin, unless I&#39;m missing something. For example 3D intersections=
 are not calculated, the Element elements are either on top or behind the 3=
d layers depending on layer stack order. <br>

<br></div>Ironically, the client is also demanding some transparency / refr=
active elements as well, so I think right now my best option is to build it=
 entirely in AE CC. My only issue is the fact I need a beveled cylinder tha=
t interacts with the shadows and refraction, and I can only create a semi-c=
urved plane with the rudimentary geometry controls. And the cylinder would =
be capless (although I could create one.) I&#39;d prefer not to create the =
animation completely in C4d as changes would be faster within AE&#39;s keyf=
rame controls. Any ideas?<br>

<br></div>Thanks!<br></div>TG<br clear=3D"all"><div><div><div><div><div><br=
>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>VFX &amp; Motion Graphic artist<span style=3D=
"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>NEW - <a href=3D"http://www.teddygage.com" target=3D=
"_blank">teddygage.com</a></span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">

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