Return-Path: Received: from metis.lunarpages.com ([67.210.120.25] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5250840 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 13 Oct 2013 00:10:57 +0200 Received: from 99-64-246-55.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net ([99.64.246.55]:49175 helo=[192.168.2.183]) by metis.lunarpages.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1VV7PN-0000fT-0Y for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:11:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:11:34 -0700 To: "After Effects Mail List" From: Zax Dow Subject: Re: 3D interactions between Element 3D & CC raytrace objects? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - metis.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zaxwerks.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Use Zaxwerks 3D Invigorator PRO. You'll get Reflections, Refractions, Shadows, and you can use AE layers inside Invigorator to get the proper object/shadow interactions. Invigorator PRO has a drawing window so you can model on the fly and it imports 3D objects in OBJ, 3DS and Lightwave formats among others. Best, Zax zaxwerks.com >From: Teddy Gage >Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 17:43:58 -0400 >Message-ID: > >Subject: 3D interactions between Element 3D & CC raytrace objects? > >--001a11c2bc124b0a1f04e8922424 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Well I find myself having to build some quick and dirty 3D >infographics and I'm contemplating my options right now. Basically I have 3 >options: Use AE native raytracing, Use C4D plugin, or use element 3D / C4D >in combination. I have to be able to change this on the fly easily, and >long renders are not really an option. I have a GTX Titan so raytracing is >actually quite fast. Having played around with each one for a bit, I was >wondering whether it was possible to use Element 3D in conjunction with >native 3d objects. It does seem there is no interaction between 3d elements >created in AE and imported objects in the element 3D plugin, unless I'm >missing something. For example 3D intersections are not calculated, the >Element elements are either on top or behind the 3d layers depending on >layer stack order. > >Ironically, the client is also demanding some transparency / refractive >elements as well, so I think right now my best option is to build it >entirely in AE CC. My only issue is the fact I need a beveled cylinder that >interacts with the shadows and refraction, and I can only create a >semi-curved plane with the rudimentary geometry controls. And the cylinder >would be capless (although I could create one.) I'd prefer not to create >the animation completely in C4d as changes would be faster within AE's >keyframe controls. Any ideas? > >Thanks! >TG