Return-Path: Received: from [208.97.132.145] (HELO homiemail-a72.g.dreamhost.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5270927 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 00:42:53 +0100 Received: from homiemail-a72.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a72.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DF16B007C for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:44:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=louai.org; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to: content-type; q=dns; s=louai.org; b=QsGa6jCg3ruw1x7HgMdaJ6REvleK hrFbqLsmqfxiVBBiT9n28YqUlNNR3qh0LIdGEVG+h5bH9OO8vKFylwpWoWzhJuXv a2BDHxanAOlyXmmzlqI5K8BQy/QlnhCOfEEN+KyW+cDPjnDBq9yShOPKwXAypEuW 6s/tbPihKFHwNlU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=louai.org; h=mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to: content-type; s=louai.org; bh=JRvZ1tdHVs1bJYMyAKJiKcoG3Xs=; b=ZL P78zEx42vxvvwYJCHhRc4/9JjAlL49+Xu8pBf+gTHcLPbVIM5jItW7wbYAJXRzEN 5f03kwnht7R1eTKkdKoX9zSCqf5qM9EGJ6ZLVV7gg5Tj90j1jfBX+9EmFX/Az3Ud OCEx0vAPgu7uqbgswlhDUqo0l727n5b7jgojJKx8s= Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: me@louai.org) by homiemail-a72.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B16D26B0059 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id o14so1776084lbi.23 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=jXOiK2k1GFrj8z2B4WYk1rpx4YApjrfi2AbvTila4jo=; b=FLzM+RIl2RU0BLSWOOfrByayrMbsWDRgc/kZDKpvylGjeQ0vTCSoaP7G6uNuDRkQEY e3F9IJrqPcfeCGtElwBAuAFrpNrc8r+hKh+O+mamvTy61vZDyeBY7E2GtnahWggGVSq5 BBS6AJ6qp+MME2F7V0P9DsbeqjsvWNm4rheenYZdebsj8rp1mkBcIqCEuL0dd5BSQe/y kRjsHkptX3RvnYoEizuhsIkJDSyK8B5xNCd1k9HQegu/rkK6BX7Bz5T+GcjlmhoLteoS 7Q6tp/ODP5nYOgtfJYo8RtPhxyJvIFi45iFg9r2qjNg1JV/ly6jDMzPIg6i+ASGFk5Hy ubkw== X-Received: by 10.152.115.146 with SMTP id jo18mr168386lab.56.1383176651995; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:44:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.155.231 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:43:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Louai Abu-Osba Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 19:43:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] lossless codec in a container roundup To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3561a01002404e9fde905 --001a11c3561a01002404e9fde905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Brendan! Do you still plan on doing this? On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Brendan Bolles wrote: > On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Robert Kjettrup wrote: > > > And the BBC Dirac Pro codec looks very promising, i remember stumbling > over that some years ago and read somewhat up on it, but forgot about it > when it never was supported by anything outside BBC. > > It looks like it has all the features needed in production so what is > holding it back? Is the encoder too slow? Is the quality not up to the > other competing codecs DNxHD, ProRes and Cineform? > > It is even a smpte standard (VC-2). > > > Good question. It can't be a quality thing, because it goes all the way > to lossless. As a wavelet codec, it might be slow. Then again a few years > have gone by and CPUs are faster now. We'll just have to find out for > ourselves. > > Maybe a general mistrust of open source by commercial companies? Ogg > Vorbis is a totally competitive and free alternative to MP3, but only Linux > users seem to know about it. > > > Brendan > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --001a11c3561a01002404e9fde905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Brendan! Do you still plan on doing this?


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:05 P= M, Brendan Bolles <brendan@fnordware.com> wrote:
On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:22 P= M, Robert Kjettrup wrote:

> And the BBC Dirac Pro codec looks very promising, i remember stumbling= over that some years ago and read somewhat up on it, but forgot about it w= hen it never was supported by anything outside BBC.
> It looks like it has all the features needed in production so what is = holding it back? Is the encoder too slow? Is the quality not up to the othe= r competing codecs DNxHD, ProRes and Cineform?
> It is even a smpte standard (VC-2).


Good question. =A0It can't be a quality thing, because it goes al= l the way to lossless. =A0As a wavelet codec, it might be slow. =A0Then aga= in a few years have gone by and CPUs are faster now. =A0We'll just have= to find out for ourselves.

Maybe a general mistrust of open source by commercial companies? =A0Ogg Vor= bis is a totally competitive and free alternative to MP3, but only Linux us= ers seem to know about it.


Brendan


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