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Subject: Re: [AE] OT Contracts
From: Steve Oakley <steveo@practicali.com>
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:17:49 -0600
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They are all different. Auto insurance is a new one. Another one is they =
try to force you to carry worker's comp on yourself. It got bad enough =
that I formed a LLC which has stopped most of the non-sense. Then there =
are pages on s)xual harassment, toxic chemicals in the workplace, safety =
procedures & PPE. just an unending pile of waste as the lawyer's try to =
keep their jobs. the last time a LA prod co pulled this and made me fill =
out the paperwork 3 times, I charged them 1hr for it. you want me to =
waste my time filling out mostly needless junk, pay me !

They also didn't like it that I had changed some text on the contract, =
mainly around if there was a dispute, it will be settled locally here, =
not in LA.

S

On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Jim Curtis <jpcurtis@me.com> wrote:

> I was presented one that wanted proof of auto insurance, too.  I did =
park in their garage.  So, that didn't bother me much.
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> But, they also wanted me to carry production insurance, when all I was =
doing was editing and graphics on their computer systems.  That was one =
that I was able to successfully strike through, as I explained that =
might be applicable to shooters with lights and electric and heavy =
equipment, but not me.
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> The contracts are meant to favor them for every possible contingency =
for liability.  That's what lawyers do.  They're not designed to be =
fair.
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> BTW, I just sub-contracted a project for a very high profile animation =
company=85 something to the effect of Sleepshop Spielman Katzenjammer =
Gheko.  I didn't sign squat, and they FTP-ed me HD clips from their =
feature films.
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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Rob Birnholz =
<absolutemotion@birnholz.com> wrote:
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>> I am awaiting (this week) a contract with a major local entertainment =
company. Aside from my particulars (name, address, tax numbers, etc) I =
had to supply proof of auto liability insurance in case I have an =
accident while on their property. I don't object, but that was a new one =
for me.
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>> My last contract with this company included six pages of what I =
couldn't do with any work I created for them (basically show it to =
anyone) or exactly how I was (or rather wasn't) allowed to speak their =
name in connection with my own business.
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>> But in practice there is a gray area=85 If I followed their last deal =
to the letter I wouldn't have gotten this new deal (as in "My demo reel =
includes snippets of what I created for your company in the past. Please =
take notice!").
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>> Rob Birnholz
>> ABSOLUTE MOTION GRAPHICS, Inc.
>> -digital design and post-
>> Longwood, Florida
>> www.absolutemotiongraphics.com
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>> The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the
>> cheese.
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>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
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>>> Some companies want you to indemnify them if you get hurt on their =
premises or locations they pay you to work.