Return-Path: Received: from mail-we0-f177.google.com ([74.125.82.177] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5285155 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:09:44 +0100 Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id t60so1154372wes.22 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:11:33 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ENcKtwUm9VuSm9cxOHlT9vsKGFUKHZN1+Q57zuSgNpk=; b=cD5X5vqU18pRZMBUHsYfohMENQbvlVfpalW1ryI3ccV+52jOXpRkezlG8RdDnbWxV4 udFNRTg/PsqGCwkziqCbjJTMze/kH4ghtpW8q/sElTt+Th1ECeaXsczoxjkSLvafBL6d VO3TfuMbKAKSiaDKK7CMyOz5pza8gH5OTijxLJcnuYRt37LQP7JBypdSSfd2oHbgiHvD T1rHr1+reMUmXxs+6lQml/Uf3akze7knukqkVpgRRLFzt/lyWFBar8MSeA25v++o6A9M BZMSo8nqemSzvcXdV85mpZn1x8hPFlTwzUEsLlsMfZyRGB2+g98MRYBQxzW9Pp18vgfI x4IA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnwy6ODG9Kr7koTnZRsOBEZqZVjmMjkMqfibdtgOStrhyQvVax2qIR0KMSlcrBxsg31/nEi MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.5.40 with SMTP id cj8mr22412364wid.18.1384387893536; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.234.36 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:11:33 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [96.239.56.201] Received: by 10.194.234.36 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:11:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:11:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Non cloud backup solutions for solo freelancers? From: Alex Czetwertynski To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135e37ca040b204eb17ec03 --001a1135e37ca040b204eb17ec03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had anybody tried Amazon glacier? I know you can send a drive On Nov 13, 2013 7:09 PM, "Robert Houghton" wrote: > Ahh yes. I've heard of LTO, I didn't know they required SAS-2 cards though > if you didn't want to run it through ethernet. I always figured they would > have a USB 2 version somehow. Buying something like this would definitely > have to be a cost to the client I think. The bluerays are cheap enough to > toss out as a value added thing which is why I like to use them. > > -Rob > > On 11/13/2013 3:20 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > >> IMO, the best value that's also reliable is LTO. >> >> Last time I researched it, the cheapest systems require a PCIe card. >> >> A SAS HBA PCI card, LTO5 drive, software and cable will set you back >> about $2000 and up. Mostly up. >> >> The ethernet LTO drives were around $4-5K, and are more versatile, as >> anybody on a network can access it. >> >> Clouds are too slow for me for project restoration and archive. >> >> LTO6 is the current version, but the current rev is the most expensive. >> LTO5 is plenty fast and big enough for me. >> >> You may not need massive storage like I do. I do editing as well as GFX, >> and I'm the de facto archivist for my clients' card media (hours of >> footage) that comes in on flash and rugged drives. >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: >> >> Hi all, >>> >>> I've been currently using BD-Rom for backup since they have dropped >>> below $1 a disc for cost for non-live storage and an external NAS for live >>> backups (less than 6 months old). Since the average project I'm working on >>> is beginning to get beyond the 25GB limit I was wondering are there any >>> other cost effective backup methods out there? I've heard backing up to >>> hard drives is an option but I've also heard they can become unreliable >>> after being dormant for a while. I'm hesitant to use the cloud merely >>> because of the huge file transfers on Comcast's internet access where they >>> hit you with a 250GB usage limit. >>> >>> -Robert >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --001a1135e37ca040b204eb17ec03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Had anybody tried Amazon glacier? I know you can send a driv= e

On Nov 13, 2013 7:09 PM, "Robert Houghton&q= uot; <gfxguy74@gmail.com> w= rote:
Ahh yes. I've heard of LTO, I didn't know they required SAS-2 cards= though if you didn't want to run it through ethernet. I always figured= they would have a USB 2 version somehow. Buying something like this would = definitely have to be a cost to the client I think. The bluerays are cheap = enough to toss out as a value added thing which is why I like to use them.<= br>
=A0 =A0 -Rob

On 11/13/2013 3:20 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
IMO, the best value that's also reliable is LTO.

Last time I researched it, the cheapest systems require a PCIe card.

A SAS HBA PCI card, LTO5 drive, software and cable will set you back about = $2000 and up. =A0Mostly up.

The ethernet LTO drives were around $4-5K, and are more versatile, as anybo= dy on a network can access it.

Clouds are too slow for me for project restoration and archive.

LTO6 is the current version, but the current rev is the most expensive. =A0= LTO5 is plenty fast and big enough for me.

You may not need massive storage like I do. =A0I do editing as well as GFX,= and I'm the de facto archivist for my clients' card media (hours o= f footage) that comes in on flash and rugged drives.




On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

=A0 =A0 I've been currently using BD-Rom for backup since they have dro= pped below $1 a disc for cost for non-live storage and an external NAS for = live backups (less than 6 months old). Since the average project I'm wo= rking on is beginning to get beyond the 25GB limit I was wondering are ther= e any other cost effective backup methods out there? I've heard backing= up to hard drives is an option but I've also heard they can become unr= eliable after being dormant for a while. I'm hesitant to use the cloud = merely because of the huge file transfers on Comcast's internet access = where they hit you with a 250GB usage limit.

=A0 =A0 -Robert

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