Return-Path: Received: from mail-qe0-f46.google.com ([209.85.128.46] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5285162 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:13:39 +0100 Received: by mail-qe0-f46.google.com with SMTP id s14so777909qeb.5 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WXatvYaNFitEbudruJVSLNBelIBPogTEDyXu1b0TTWg=; b=SbRR0eelQm39jXORtY5LeauczdlEJhIw2ZSOB4/apBtptvMm2QuBsOHEWgCrT87Kq2 cO16W/PjYimvF797xUKbLHSXF1eOXb6C5N1jYyZ3P2LhZOKOrnzT+3A+lm1ISeaqr/cq guj9YKZyNzHl22Q2cJC9O1vVFiZlHRyjJG8utzqfT8TxLwkO28obXw5+krSmyDIf8ZeT bk4I4BcbWOYmAJNsTCE/FEughvEJWqEKdoeRv0LcS85OnRwwe8smqGtCCzJCTv7yBTT0 mAxSyTmJR/OowIY49iarGXbe4PU2kPWqIANuXP/zWBPI765rkq2cQNRgjaw7rQ9odQX/ bzLQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.121.198 with SMTP id i6mr71386088qar.52.1384388127466; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.104.131 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.104.131 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:15:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Non cloud backup solutions for solo freelancers? From: Greg Balint To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0153725291dd9e04eb17fa94 --089e0153725291dd9e04eb17fa94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Glacier looks incredibly cheap, but in don't like the idea that it could be 4+ hours before I am allowed to get my files back from them if I need them for a project. ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On Nov 13, 2013 7:13 PM, "Alex Czetwertynski" wrote: > Had anybody tried Amazon glacier? I know you can send a drive > On Nov 13, 2013 7:09 PM, "Robert Houghton" wrote: > >> Ahh yes. I've heard of LTO, I didn't know they required SAS-2 cards >> though if you didn't want to run it through ethernet. I always figured they >> would have a USB 2 version somehow. Buying something like this would >> definitely have to be a cost to the client I think. The bluerays are cheap >> enough to toss out as a value added thing which is why I like to use them. >> >> -Rob >> >> On 11/13/2013 3:20 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> >>> IMO, the best value that's also reliable is LTO. >>> >>> Last time I researched it, the cheapest systems require a PCIe card. >>> >>> A SAS HBA PCI card, LTO5 drive, software and cable will set you back >>> about $2000 and up. Mostly up. >>> >>> The ethernet LTO drives were around $4-5K, and are more versatile, as >>> anybody on a network can access it. >>> >>> Clouds are too slow for me for project restoration and archive. >>> >>> LTO6 is the current version, but the current rev is the most expensive. >>> LTO5 is plenty fast and big enough for me. >>> >>> You may not need massive storage like I do. I do editing as well as >>> GFX, and I'm the de facto archivist for my clients' card media (hours of >>> footage) that comes in on flash and rugged drives. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've been currently using BD-Rom for backup since they have dropped >>>> below $1 a disc for cost for non-live storage and an external NAS for live >>>> backups (less than 6 months old). Since the average project I'm working on >>>> is beginning to get beyond the 25GB limit I was wondering are there any >>>> other cost effective backup methods out there? I've heard backing up to >>>> hard drives is an option but I've also heard they can become unreliable >>>> after being dormant for a while. I'm hesitant to use the cloud merely >>>> because of the huge file transfers on Comcast's internet access where they >>>> hit you with a 250GB usage limit. >>>> >>>> -Robert >>>> >>>> +---End of message---+ >>>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>> >>> >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>> >> >> >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >> > --089e0153725291dd9e04eb17fa94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Glacier looks incredibly cheap, but in don't like the id= ea that it could be 4+ hours before I am allowed to get my files back from = them if I need them for a project.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
=A0=A0=A0

On Nov 13, 2013 7:13 PM, "Alex Czetwertynsk= i" <alex@disciplefilms.co= m> wrote:

Had anybody tried Amazon glacier? I know you can send a driv= e

On Nov 13, 2013 7:09 PM, "Robert Houghton&q= uot; <gfxguy74@g= mail.com> wrote:
Ahh yes. I've heard of LTO, I didn't know they required SAS-2 cards= though if you didn't want to run it through ethernet. I always figured= they would have a USB 2 version somehow. Buying something like this would = definitely have to be a cost to the client I think. The bluerays are cheap = enough to toss out as a value added thing which is why I like to use them.<= br>
=A0 =A0 -Rob

On 11/13/2013 3:20 PM, Jim Curtis wrote:
IMO, the best value that's also reliable is LTO.

Last time I researched it, the cheapest systems require a PCIe card.

A SAS HBA PCI card, LTO5 drive, software and cable will set you back about = $2000 and up. =A0Mostly up.

The ethernet LTO drives were around $4-5K, and are more versatile, as anybo= dy on a network can access it.

Clouds are too slow for me for project restoration and archive.

LTO6 is the current version, but the current rev is the most expensive. =A0= LTO5 is plenty fast and big enough for me.

You may not need massive storage like I do. =A0I do editing as well as GFX,= and I'm the de facto archivist for my clients' card media (hours o= f footage) that comes in on flash and rugged drives.




On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Robert Houghton <gfxguy74@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

=A0 =A0 I've been currently using BD-Rom for backup since they have dro= pped below $1 a disc for cost for non-live storage and an external NAS for = live backups (less than 6 months old). Since the average project I'm wo= rking on is beginning to get beyond the 25GB limit I was wondering are ther= e any other cost effective backup methods out there? I've heard backing= up to hard drives is an option but I've also heard they can become unr= eliable after being dormant for a while. I'm hesitant to use the cloud = merely because of the huge file transfers on Comcast's internet access = where they hit you with a 250GB usage limit.

=A0 =A0 -Robert

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