Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5285198 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 02:34:30 +0100 Received: from mbp-17.westell.com (50-55-16-4.waus.wi.frontiernet.net [50.55.16.4]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lyo0t-1VcI8F1R6V-015PoU; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:36:17 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Non cloud backup solutions for solo freelancers? From: Steve Oakley In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:36:16 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <33F5394F-B495-4A12-8345-1F81FB645BCB@practicali.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Ibyka2iFxei3DuGPdjeeVLXMBmlOJLYg68jZPAV2tev gBqNFnK2tDMUSrUVAwdl8ekXLytAKAgiKeLMDHDM/Fdbop57DR B6kcXSustVlI533pNxqUj0Vo/ca6WZt6ZCiepmdWOwX1WVmiJv NXqdpJkb9W3DCsD8rO9ZbuqPfv6/glP04LKnLbS39kKX9m4eur jIIPU8MfPPXU1rOdgUl+1pLAodws/KfIEGXu2Up1hTjd+2mJAh iKDwF04bWjfvtVqNUgu6FFtEy4pJpkahT7oP35Hz7UwDOcrt5/ 1lAlKGiR1LcYRDyTKVOCjiO5IPF+ETvSLSklFNlGn6E98ghgiW Vny/xF3aeAd2TwLAN2iyEEaJrMGE1W3JmTvSZvKhSEOJ+4MhDc P5Xkk+VkILYnA== seriously.... $100 1tb USB hard drive. next question... maybe get a 3.0 = adapter for faster access. ok power it up often enough. I've had drives = sit for quite a while and work fine. I use ChronoSync to match up local = storage to back up drives rather painlessly. Time Machine can also work = ok for some projects. there is nothing economical about LTO despite claims when you compare = either bare drives + eSATA dock or simple USB3 external drives. don't every think of optical media as stable, not the recordable kind. I = had over 100 DVD-R's go bad due to very low light level exposure. Bad = batch... thankfully what I lost doesn't matter and I had backups on... = hard drives ! S On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Robert Houghton wrote: > Ahh yes. I've heard of LTO, I didn't know they required SAS-2 cards = though if you didn't want to run it through ethernet. I always figured = they would have a USB 2 version somehow. Buying something like this = would definitely have to be a cost to the client I think. The bluerays = are cheap enough to toss out as a value added thing which is why I like = to use them. >=20 > -Rob >=20 > On 11/13/2013 3:20 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: >> IMO, the best value that's also reliable is LTO. >>=20 >> Last time I researched it, the cheapest systems require a PCIe card. >>=20 >> A SAS HBA PCI card, LTO5 drive, software and cable will set you back = about $2000 and up. Mostly up. >>=20 >> The ethernet LTO drives were around $4-5K, and are more versatile, as = anybody on a network can access it. >>=20 >> Clouds are too slow for me for project restoration and archive. >>=20 >> LTO6 is the current version, but the current rev is the most = expensive. LTO5 is plenty fast and big enough for me. >>=20 >> You may not need massive storage like I do. I do editing as well as = GFX, and I'm the de facto archivist for my clients' card media (hours of = footage) that comes in on flash and rugged drives. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Robert Houghton = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi all, >>>=20 >>> I've been currently using BD-Rom for backup since they have = dropped below $1 a disc for cost for non-live storage and an external = NAS for live backups (less than 6 months old). Since the average project = I'm working on is beginning to get beyond the 25GB limit I was wondering = are there any other cost effective backup methods out there? I've heard = backing up to hard drives is an option but I've also heard they can = become unreliable after being dormant for a while. I'm hesitant to use = the cloud merely because of the huge file transfers on Comcast's = internet access where they hit you with a 250GB usage limit. >>>=20 >>> -Robert >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>=20 >> +---End of message---+ >> To unsubscribe send any message to >=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to